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Originally posted by OKCGene:
Could this lead to a Dishonorable Discharge?

That'd screw the shorts off of her for the rest of her life.

I don't know if it 'could' but it damn sure should. My father's told me many times that wearing the uniform was a privilege and an honor for him, something this bitch will never have any grasp of. She and those like her need to be busted out of the military.

Betcha she’s an E6 by the end of the year..

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Originally posted by limblessbiff:
Betcha she’s an E6 by the end of the year..

Just what exactly are you trying to prove with this kind of post?

The sailor in this video will be answering for her actions. The base is very closely tied to the Ventura County Government Center in several ways. The base command was aware of this mess, and had pictures, well before it hit social media.

It's been a long time since I had to look up charges in the UCMJ. A quick glance at Article 88 (Disrespect Towards Officials) seems only to apply to commissioned officers. Article 134 seems more suited to this incident.

"91. Article 134 (10 U.S.C. 934)—General article a. Text of statute. Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court. As used in the preceding sentence, the term “crimes and offenses not capital” includes any conduct engaged in outside the United States, as defined in section 5 of title 18, that would constitute a crime or offense not capital if the conduct had been engaged in within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, as defined in section 7 of title 18. "

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Originally posted by navyshooter:
I don't think she did herself any favors there. No CO wants to be blindsided and embarrassed by crap like that.

Not to mention SecDef's February memo explicitly addressed such behaviour, you can be sure this came to the attention way higher up the chain-of-command than "merely" her CO, and shit rolls downhill.

She's gonna wish she'd kept her pie hole shut and forgone those one-fingered salutes RSN.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by limblessbiff:
Betcha she’s an E6 by the end of the year..

Just what exactly are you trying to prove with this kind of post?

In the enlisted E-6 is the highest rank you can achieve without congressional approval.

Some E-6s think they ain't got nothing to lose. I've seen it more than a few times in my career.

Man, what in the world are you talking about? My question was for limblessbiff and no one else, and on top of that you're telling me something which has nothing to do with the point I was making, which was for him to cool it with the pointless cynicism.

Do me a favor and reduce the number of lines in your signature. You've got five different elements in that signature. Pick one and get rid of the rest. You're taking up far too much real estate on the page with all that stuff.

Hopefully she will be sitting at the green table soon...

Yes, she's going to be sitting at "the long green table, with all the water glasses at the other end" very soon.

I would push for administrative discharge as "unsuitable for military service". No court martial, no media coverage, just "we don't need you any more". She could be gone by sundown.

Screw that. Other than honorable.

What a lot of young ones don't realize is if they don't fulfill their end of the contract and are admin'ed out they lose their GI Bill

She drew unneeded attention to herself and deserves whatever she gets as far as discipline. I served during Clinton too and would never have done that. Also, how does she meet physical fitness requirements? Are they that lax now? Appearances can be deceiving but it doesn’t appear she meets standards from when I was in. Being physically fit is important for active duty military.

Whether you are in uniform or not it is childish and in mature.

It also shows how unbalanced you are and are not able to consider or be objective of other individuals ideals or view points.

Now add to the fact that she is in uniform is an insult to the Navy, this great nation and also adds to many peoples ideals that only individuals from the lower rungs of society join the military.

I hope Command takes a harsh view on this. This was not simply a young and dumb new enlistee fresh from boot camp or A school (I think that what the Navy calls it) this was from an individual that has served in the armed services for an extended period of time and should have known better.

Now if we were talking about the Army I would say it would probably swept under the rug and she would be given a slot for some super cool unit. I hope the Navy has not gone the path the Army has.

This is one of the reasons I have not joined a reserve unit full time and have been researching each unit closely. It seems episodes like this are becoming a common occurrence (at least in the Army).

I think appropriate disciplinary actions should conducted and honestly she be made an example of.

In the old Army there is no way a Company Commander, 1SGT down to your platoon SGT would not flip their lids when they saw this. You would be on so many crap details, and doing foot locker PT until the day your enlistment was up.

The problem is many of the people who are serving now think they can do what they want because the military is there for them and not the other way around. This is what happens when the Armed Forces becomes a touchy feely SJW program. Everyone gets a trophy.

I re-enlisted under Former Pres. Obama and I was not a fan of his. Whether in uniform or not I would not do crap like this anyways because I have opposable thumbs and objective reasoning skills (even though I may not always use them)

Thanks to modern technology this episode, stunt, transgression will be always be saved and can be brought up on some video outlet, internet, you tube etc.. So when you leave the military and go apply for a job in the civilian world this childish episode will be there to remind people of your character and social skills.

She also better pray that she does not have to go through a security clearance evaluation or re-investigation because this episode will take a few pages to explain. I know there are questions pertaining to episodes like this but I do not have my investigators hand books with me to give you the exact wording.

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how does she meet physical fitness requirements? Are they that lax now?

they changed last year BMI Male 26% - Female 36%

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Originally posted by Tailhook 84:
Yes, she's going to be sitting standing at "the long green table, with all the water glasses at the other end" very soon.

FIFY
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The following are the options that I remember are available to the command,
1. Captains Mast (article 15 for you landlubbers) several things That could happen, are
-letter on your record (can prevent promotion or re-enlisting)
-loss of pay
-loss of stripe (depends on what rank her CO is, a CDR can take two stripes...and ADM can take them all)
-restriction to the base/ship
-EMI, an hour or two of Extra Military Instruction(marching in a box with a swap every day for the length of restriction)

2. She could catch a Courts Martial(probably won’t go that far)
3. She could be administratively discharged at the “good of the service” with a “no-reenlistment” code in the DD214. (This is the fastest way to get rid of her)

If I were her CO, I’d opt for the admin discharge. No muss no fuss...no long time to be gone with her, no way for her to go into some diatribe about the command or the POTUS. The downside is that it’s a quite process and doesn’t serve to be an example of what not to do to other malcontents.

She needs to be busted down or, out, inappropriate behavior for someone in uniform, made quite the spectacle of herself. While the admin is processing her paperwork, I'm sure there's a shipping container that needs its paint chipped or, a bilge tank that needs cleaning. No more deployments, no more schooling, no more choices, she can fulfill her contract as a E-nothing and process out with a admin discharge.

By any chance, does the phrase "live volcano" appear anywhere within the text of the UCMJ?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
By any chance, does the phrase "live volcano" appear anywhere within the text of the UCMJ?

Unfortunately it does not. I’ve done a bunch of Art 32’s and 34’s where the USN, USCG and USMC have referred specifications that call for a lot of time due to nature of offense and what NCIS or CGIS produces during an investigation. If the referring authority pushes this and NCIS finds the people in the tape, she may suffer more punishment above an Administrative Discharge.