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I see the nation splitting into three:

Southern California will become "Venezuela de la Norte"

The Northeast will become "Norther Puerto Rico"

And the rest of the nation will coalesce into "Greater American Idaho".


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Can our modern ‘house divided’ remain one nation?
... not if those who disagree with us want to take both our liberty AND our lives:

Deserae Morin, a Republican running for a seat in the Vermont House of Representatives, allegedly received an ominous death and rape threat letter from someone claiming to be a socialist.

“I’ve received my first official death threat, also rape threat,” Morin wrote via Facebook on Saturday along with a picture of an envelope and its contents. “And a threat to all Vermont Republicans. My entire platform consists of protecting individual liberty, ensuring small government, reducing taxes, increasing personal choices and a deep commitment to the Constitution… Apparently these are things that make the Socialists want to kill me ... How telling.”


The letter, pieced together in block letters, read:

C**t,

We are hunting you. My comrades will kill you and the Constitution. First we will rape you for days. You will scream and know that agonizing horror. No equal rights for Republicans. Socialism is here. Open season for Republican death in Vermont.

Fear our revolution. It’s time.

AA”



https://dailycaller.com/2018/1...ath-and-rape-threat/



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^^^ And yet, if that scum breaks into her house and she feeds him three to the chest and one to the head, she won't have defended herself against a misogynist scumbag. No, she'll have fought for a system of bigoted capitalist oppression and he'll have died a revolutionary hero. Riiiiiight.
 
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^^^ And yet, if that scum breaks into her house and she feeds him three to the chest and one to the head, she won't have defended herself against a misogynist scumbag. No, she'll have fought for a system of bigoted capitalist oppression and he'll have died a revolutionary hero. Riiiiiight.
But he will have died, and in my book, that's a good start. this whole thing is coming to a head.


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Can our modern ‘house divided’ remain one nation?
... not if those who disagree with us want to take both our liberty AND our lives:



That's the problem. We are not just divided. The Left is moving on us. We cannot remain one nation that way.



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I think that there were three other times in our history that we were more divided.

1776, 1863(ish), and 1968.

The only difference between those years and now, is the murder of opponents. Although, one could argue that the killing of cops and the near murder of Scalise would qualify.

We're in troubling times, no doubt. How we get out of it...I don't know.

We can't expect the irrational to suddenly wake up one morning rational.

Troubling times, to be sure. And yet...the commies keep throwing logs on the fire.


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I believe if the left regains power in this country and foolishly packs the Supreme Court,we would most certainly be in a civil war at that point. There is a lot of talk from the left that they will do exactly that.All this talk that the Supreme Court is now illegitimate is the prelude.

Liberal profs launch campaign to pack Supreme Court after Kavanaugh confirmation

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...vanaugh-confirmation

Less than a month after the confirmation of Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh entrenched a 5-4 conservative majority on the Supreme Court, leading law professors are urging Democrats to expand the size of all of the nation's federal courts and pack them with liberals.

Far-left Harvard professors Mark Tushnet and Laurence Tribe are lending their support to the so-called "1.20.21 Project," which was launched by political science professor Aaron Belkin on Wednesday to counter "Republican obstruction, theft and procedural abuse" of the federal judiciary.

That rhetoric reflects the professors' apparent surprise after the Democrats lost the 2016 presidential election, which they had hoped would allow the party to continue appointing liberal judges and justices. In 2016, when Hillary Clinton was leading in all major polls in her bid for the presidency, Tushnet definitively declared in a blog post that conservatives were the "losers in the culture wars."

The heated language also highlights what liberals have characterized as the unfair treatment of President Obama's failed nominee to the Supreme Court, Merrick Garland. In 2016, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, refused to hold a hearing or vote on Garland, saying a lame-duck president shouldn't be able to appoint a justice in an election year. Garland didn't have enough support in the GOP-held Senate to win confirmation.

At Kavanaugh's ceremonial swearing-in ceremony earlier this month, President Trump led a standing ovation for McConnell, whom he called a "great" leader who has done an "incredible job for the American people." Under McConnell and Trump, Republicans have now confirmed 26 federal appellate judges and two Supreme Court justices. (Kavanaugh's rise to the Supreme Court creates a new vacancy on the influential D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, where he had served for 12 years.)

That fast pace of conservative judicial appointments has upended and frustrated some of the assumptions of liberal law professors like Tushnet, who wrote just two years ago: "Right now more than half of the judges sitting on the courts of appeals were appointed by Democratic presidents, and – though I wasn’t able to locate up-to-date numbers – the same appears to be true of the district courts."

Liberal academics have long floated the possibility of flooding the bench with Democrats, although the 1.20.21 Project is their most organized effort to date. For example, another far-left law professor, Indiana Unversity's Ian Samuel, wrote on Twitter as soon as then-Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement in June that Democrats should "[p]ack the courts" as urgently as they should "abolish ICE.

While there is no constitutionally fixed number of federal appellate or Supreme Court justices, the plan would require a statutory change, meaning that Democrats would have to retake Congress and the presidency to see it through.

The proposal is not without precedent. In 1937, then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, frustrated by the Supreme Court's objections to his New Deal policies, threatened to pack the Supreme Court -- a proposal that failed after Associate Justice Owen Roberts bowed to the White House's pressure and began supporting its initiatives.

But Tribe said this new plan is different. Roosevelt was unhappy with high court decisions that were blocking New Deal legislation, but the new push for a larger court stems from Republican actions, not the court's decisions, Tribe said.

"The time is overdue for a seriously considered plan of action by those of us who believe that McConnell Republicans, abetted by and abetting the Trump Movement, have prioritized the expansion of their own power over the safeguarding of American democracy and the protection of the most vulnerable among us," Tribe said.

Belkin, who launched the 1.20.21 Project, did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

The size of the Supreme Court varied during its first 80 years from a low of six at the time the Constitution took effect in 1789 to a high of 10 during the Civil War. The current tally of nine justices was set in an 1869 law.

He wrote that liberal judges who "no longer have to be worried about reversal by the Supreme Court" could be useful in marginalizing those Republican "losers," whom he compared to the defeated Japanese in World War II or the Confederacy in the Civil War.


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