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| half-genius, half-wit |
Thort you might care to see this - 8 minutes of live-firing Vickers Machine Guns. Careful of the audio level if you're wearing headphones!! 3 July 2022, 4pm, saw the Vickers Machine Gun Collection & Research Association commemorate the centenary of the disbandment of the Machine Gun Corps. Descending on NRA Bisley, Surrey, were 16 guns, 16,000 rounds of ammunition and 54 trained personnel. 45 minutes later, 0 rounds left. For more information on the Vickers Machine Gun, please visit: http://www.vickersmg.org.uk/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIdbsFlFNaM In case you are wondering why there are ladies there, they were mostly built by ladies in the various arsenals and tested on the range by them, so why not? | ||
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Very cool. Thanks for posting! __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Outstanding. Interesting to see the various uniform themes amongst the teams manning the individual guns. WW1 Western Front. WW1 Middle East. Early WW2 ETO. Late WW2 ETO. Late WW2 ETO Paras. Late WW2 PTO Diggers. Factory ladies. Etc. | |||
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Don't Panic |
Thanks for posting! There's a bit of history you don't see every day!  | |||
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That had a different effect on me than expected. I kind of got a cold chill, goosebumps and thought... "horrible". | |||
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That’s what I was thinking. It’s so cool that they didn’t just go to shoot the guns, but dressed up in antique battle rattle for the day. Reminds me of Civil War re-enactments when I was a kid, back before you were considered a racist for donning a gray uniform. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| A day late, and a dollar short  |
Thanks Tac, that was cool! ____________________________ NRA Life Member, Annual Member GOA, MGO Annual Member | |||
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Keeping the economy moving since 1964 |
Tac - thanks for posting this. Very interesting and cool! ----------------------- You can't fall off the floor. | |||
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Thanks for posting. | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
Outstanding! Beyond the fantastic assortment of uniforms representing different theaters and time periods, I was surprised by the variations in the RoF (rates of fire). Hearing protection was obviously used, but I was mildly surprised to see that the reenactors weren't required to wear eye protection...although I can see how that might detract from their historical uniforms. Doing a little digging, I came across this video which not only includes the previously posted footage, but is a documentary that goes into the history of the Machine Gun Corps, the detailed firearms inspections before the event, the cartridge belt loaders, more details about the various uniforms and personal equipment that was carried, time periods and theaters that the Vickers was used in, and the nonprofit organization that sponsored the event and for those that enjoyed the original video I'd suggest checking this one out too. Looks like a really fun event and I hope they are able to grow it for future events. 20 minute documentary on this particular shoot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARgVokqQ48 Tac, thanks for posting this event! | |||
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| half-genius, half-wit |
Many thanks for that info!!! I'll add it to the file! Needless to say, the ordinary Joe-in-the-street can't do this kind of thing, like you can at Knob Creek until last year [  ] but it's good to see that some folks here can still shoot this kind of thing, even if they don't actually own them.Even Section 1 Firearms owners like me can't do this - these people are all Section 5 firearms certificate holders- somewhat like Class 3 FFL in the US of A who are permitted to shoot full-auto military firearms that are actually banned Europe-wide. It needs some looking into on my part, I guess. Here, from the Association website - 'The Association now holds authorisation for prohibited weapons (Section 5) so we can conduct firing demonstrations and firing research as part of our activities. This is incredibly valuable and enables us to answer many more questions about the use of the Vickers MG than every before.' | |||
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That's cool. I noticed some were firing faster than others. Can you imagine running headlong into that? Brave soldiers. Reminds me of the last scene in Gallipoli. Let all Men know thee, but no man know thee thoroughly: Men freely ford that see the shallows. Benjamin Franklin | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
tac, Great video. Too bad a steam locomotive didn't deliver everything to the shooting site.  Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Alienator |
That is a glorious sound! I remember playing Bridge Too Far and the Vickers sounding off always stuck out to me. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE P322 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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| half-genius, half-wit |
Ah, Sir, you know me too well! Steam trains and guns , my 'things' - see Youtube - tac's trains and tac's guns. | |||
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I noticed the timing varied from gun to gun. I have no experience with a Vickers but I have set timing and headspace on a few M2 HB guns. You can speed up the rate of fire but going one more click out when you headspace the barrel. Master Gunner taught me that. | |||
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| Uppity Helot |
Cool video. I wonder if the ammo used was surplus from MOD stores or newer commercial fodder? | |||
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| half-genius, half-wit |
Brand new from PPU via the importer - 16,000 rounds @$122.00/C. There is NO surplus .303 ammunition in this country - the Armed Forces went over to 7.62x51 in 1957. I shot a lot of .303 bulleted blank while I was in the TA in the mid-sixties, but even then the LMG [BREN] was NATO standard. | |||
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| Uppity Helot |
Well that makes sense with it being modern non corrosive commercial fodder. The ignition reliability of the rounds being fired looked excellent and that would have surprised me if the ammo was older surplus. | |||
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That would be a overwhelming amount of gunfire at it's time. Train how you intend to Fight Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. | |||
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