December 07, 2023, 08:57 PM
sigcrazy7Off-duty pilot charged with 83 counts of attempted murder for allegedly trying to shutdown engines on US flight
This is just the kind of thing that can get the jump seat closed for everyone.
December 07, 2023, 09:04 PM
sourdough44I go back to the idea that he sounds like a mental mess. With a casual look it doesn’t seem like a serious attempt to crash the plane.
No, I’m not forgiving his actions, he may never get close to a 121 flight deck again. The not sleeping & mushroom talk is enough to lock him out.
One can feel a little for his cause, but the front of an airliner is kinda serious stuff. Last I saw, Home Depot was hiring.
December 08, 2023, 10:19 AM
Fly-Sigquote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
This is just the kind of thing that can get the jump seat closed for everyone.
They've been incrementally closing it down for decades.
Back in the day it was strictly Captain's discretion. Hell, we used to open the cockpit door in flight and chat with kids who'd come up! Sometimes a family member would ride the jumpseat, especially on a momentous occasion like the last flight before retirement. Then it required a Commercial certificate, and we would sometimes have someone working their way into the industry ride along.
After 9-11 it got much more restrictive. The seat could only be occupied if the back was full. Flight attendants (deadheading or commuting to/from work) could no longer use it. Not even on a reposition flight with no passengers under Part 91. The national computer database was implemented, which still causes many pilots to miss commutes due to network or database glitches.
The government has done an outstanding job of killing the aviation fraternity.
December 08, 2023, 10:49 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
Hell, we used to open the cockpit door in flight and chat with kids who'd come up!
December 08, 2023, 11:26 AM
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