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Sound and Fury |
I have to replace an ancient valve with a bad diaphragm. It was mounted on 1" pipe teed off a 2" pipe below. There was barely enough pipe to work with to begin with before the thin-wall PVC cracked all the way to the elbow. Everything is good. So do I have any choice other than digging up the lower pipe and using a couple of unions and replacing the whole tee?   "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | ||
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That is what needs done. Dig it up and replace the tee. They make tools that will cut out a broken pipe out of a fitting. I have them for 1 1/2" up to 4", but I don't know how small they make them. If is 2" schedule 40 it would work just to get the broken piece out of the tee NRA Life member NRA Certified Instructor "Our duty is to serve the mission, and if we're not doing that, then we have no right to call what we do service" Marcus Luttrell | |||
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I would put a glue on slip fitting to a threaded fitting so in the future, you can just unscrew the threaded fitting and start glueing to that. Thread in a new threaded to female glue in fitting. | |||
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Character, above all else |
Dallas, check your email. "The Truth, when first uttered, is always considered heresy." | |||
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I just replaced the top part of the valve. left the old body intact. To repair the busted pipe split a piece of pipe and glue a piece over the split. Install a clamp around the repaired section. | |||
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is circumspective |
Home Depot has a tool (online only, about six bucks for 1") called a socket saver. It allows you to bore the glued part out of an existing fitting to re-use it. They are size specific, and you need enough room to do it in-place. It might be an option for you. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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Nosce te ipsum |
Is that lower pressure irrigation pipe? Personally, I'd go with compression unions or a new glued 2" tee and slip coupling. Over dealing with pipe cracked off inside the tee. | |||
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There is a mom and pop pool supply place here that has fittings that slide into the ID of the pipe broken in the fitting, it then expands out to the original pipe OD. If you can find them they are a real time saver. I think I bought them at blue water pool and spa in Midland, don't know if they have a website. Tommy | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
Thanks for the pointer and name. I just ordered this on Amazon and will see if it works. Fingers crossed, would save a bunch of time. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
Back at you. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
I got down deeper, and the tee is actually 1.5" coming out one end and 1" coming out the other So a bunch of glued together bushings and fittings. Definitely would be easier to use compression unions, but I worry about leaks. Will do that if drilling out doesn't work. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
The Socket Saver saved my socket! This gizmo actually worked great, and I was able to cut out the elbow and replace. I accidentally ordered 2 from Amazon, and they don't want the extra back, so if anyone else needs a 1" socket saver, LMK and it's yours. https://www.homedepot.com/p/JS...ver-J44100/302575483 "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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I'm glad it worked out for you. I have the 1" and may get a coupla' other sizes just because. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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| Dances With Tornados |
Instant Karma? I could use that. Will email you. | |||
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| Nosce te ipsum |
Oops - I meant to type 'compression couplings'. I've used galvanized Dressler (compression) couplings on water services. As do the water company, although they say we cannot. Go figure. On PVC irrigation pipe plastic compression unions are a fairly common repair item, with landscapers spearing shallow lines all of the time. Glad the Socket Saver worked. I'll keep an open mind on that tool. My experience is that surfaces to be glued (fused) must be smooth, clean, and without chips or fissures. | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
The tool definitely does not make a smooth hole, but it is also just a smidge undersized, so once you get the solvent in there and everything melts a little, it's good. I tried it on some scrap pieces before I did it for real just so I knew what to expect and didn't make anything worse. And because the guide is sized for Schedule 40 pipe, it did wallow a little bit in the thin-wall pipe, but still worked. I also made sure to let the glued joint sit for the full cure time. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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| Sound and Fury |
Instant Karma and you win! "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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