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There is an impressive BBC report on people crossing from Venezuela into Colombia. Between all the cases of human misery, I was most struck by the Maduro government painting those refugees as "deserters of the socialist cause". It's rather familiar language from the Cold War past over here; though at the rate of their economic collaps, I doubt they'll have the means to fence in the country to counter the exodus.
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Of course he calls them "deserters of the socialist cause"... in public. Secretly, like Fidel Castro, I bet he's glad to see them go. If you are running a "socialist paradise" your only "cause" is yourself and your own survival. It's easier with fewer people. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Until an insurgent army forms on your borders, anyway. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
No... but you can go after the looters. August 25, 2018 Venezuela's filthy-rich oil-looting elites about to get their comeuppance As Venezuela descends into ruin and millions flee their homeland, one byproduct of its lethal socialism has generally gotten off scot-free: the crony capitalist oil billions of Venezuela's Chavista nomenklatura elites, made rich by looting Venezuela's oil bounty. Well, until now. The Miami Herald reports: Federal prosecutors have frozen hundreds of millions of dollars in South Florida luxury real estate and other assets linked to a network of Venezuelan business people and former government officials charged with laundering more than $1 billion that U.S. authorities say was stolen from the country's vast oil income. Among the targeted assets are at least 17 South Florida homes, condos and horse ranches ranging in total value from $22 million to $35 million, based on property assessments in public records and real estate market estimates. They include a condo in the Porsche Design Tower in Sunny Isles Beach, a residence in the affluent Bay Point area of Miami, four homes in the exclusive Cocoplum neighborhood of Coral Gables, and two ranches in the wealthy equestrian community of Wellington in Palm Beach County. Also facing federal forfeiture: More than $45 million that has already been seized by U.S. authorities in the past year, along with additional deposits at City National Bank of New Jersey and other financial institutions in the Bahamas, England and Switzerland. That's the flip-side of socialism, which makes so much of its love for equality and standing up for the little guy. Thank goodness President Trump's administration has begun rolling up that slimy little reality, and what's better, there's likely more to come. Two things happened in Venezuela that brought about this grotesque inequality in the midst of Venezuela's starvation and flight: One: The socialization of the state oil company by Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chávez directed millions in oil profits from what should have been reinvestment and maintenance funds toward social spending programs to buy votes from the poor. Sound familiar? Net result: The oil company started falling apart and production began falling. Two: In 2002-2003, Chávez fired 10,000 state oil company (PDVSA) professionals and replaced them with political loyalists, none of whom had much knowledge of the oil industry. Their only reason for being there was their political loyalty to Chavista socialism. That politicized what had up until then been a professionally run organization into an organization whose decisions revolved around political loyalty. The more loyalty, the more "opportunities" for draining the oil coffers at a time of high oil prices and significant market demand. More oil profits were looted from the state oil coffers, and the oil company fell apart even further. PDVSA is now in such bad shape that it looks as though it's about to lose its critical Citgo refining distributorship for non-payment debt. Those "boliburgueses" who got all the oil money for their political loyalty to socialism have since been whooping it up in Miami, buttressed by corrupt money-laundering bankers who've enabled them, like that guy from Julius Baer who got busted in the article above. ...except that now, it looks as though the party is coming to a close, thanks to these actions by the administration of President Trump. This tweet, from former PDVSA board member, banker, and opponent of the regime Pedro Burelli, who knows what he is talking about, is worth noting: Investigación en banco suizo Julius Baer seguramente resultará en muchos más datos sobre billones robados a Venezuela por una amalgama de niñitos ricos, operadores corruptos, funcionarios rojos, rojitos, y otras figuras claves de la nomenclatura chavista. https://t.co/V301TfCZfX — Pedro Mario Burelli (@pburelli) August 24, 2018 Translation: The investigation at Swiss bank Julius Baer will surely result in many more data on billions stolen from Venezuela by an amalgam of wealthy little boys, corrupt operators, red officials, Rojitos, and other key figures of the Chávez nomenklatura. If socialism is ever to be discredited forever as the corrupt crony capitalist elitist scheme it really is, that day can't come soon enough, and these individuals in line to be busted can't be publicized loudly enough. What's more, with a post-socialism Venezuela likely to be direly in need of funding, their stolen lootings will be needed as working capital to try to restore the country. Thank goodness the ball has gotten rolling now with these banker busts. Party's over for Venezuela's ravenously greedy thieving socialist elites. The ratlines out of Miami are likely to begin shortly. https://www.americanthinker.co...eir_comeuppance.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I have no pity for anyone in that country. Exactly who elected the last two Socialist Presidents? That's right, the citizens of Venezuela. Now let them live and breathe it for a while. Let it sink in. *This is also a teachable moment for America's ignorant youth, Libs, and closet Socialists. If you want this for America, you should have to live THERE for a year. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
The fruits of socialism. https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...710094644#6710094644 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Just for fun I googled mail order brides in Venezuela. Seems there are a handful that wouldn’t mind out. Not sure how it would turn out 3-5 years down the road? | |||
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Drug Dealer |
You'd best be cautious with them mail order brides: When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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Ah, I love this comment. We also richly deserved Obama, didn’t we, as we voted for him twice, we should have let it sink in, right? I’ve rarely heard more ignorant words on an online forum than what you posted, and someone else’s comments regarding McCain. Here’s a quick summary: 50% of this country is leftist totalitarians. Do you ignore Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Kansas and a host of other states because California and New York pushed the electorate one way or another? Also, your unbelievable naïveté about “elections” is fascinating. The only free(ish) election held was Chavez in 1998, after that he packed the Supreme Court, installed his cronies in every facet of government (doesn’t THAT sound familiar?), destroyed the national oil company and turned it into a private slush fund, and jailed or banned opposition leaders. Let me rephrase exactly what you said: “I have no pity for anyone in the United States. Exactly who elected the last Socialist President twice?”... and note those those are much, much freer elections than anything in Venezuela. I hope you don’t mind insulting the entire SIGforum membership with that comment | |||
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"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Banned |
I wish Americas liberals could live in the land (country) that they think they want. Now that would be a REALITY show worth watching. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Yeah, but the problem is the rest of us would have to live there too. The problem with marxism/socialism/progressivism is that it has to be imposed, forced on all. They can't just leave us alone who don't want any part of it. The beauty of a free-market economy is that every transaction is voluntary. You don't have to participate if you don't want to. Nothing is forced. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
Just get an ironclad prenup. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
They can't even keep the lights on... September 2, 2018 Watch Venezuela's power stations, one after another, explode through the night By Monica Showalter Socialism and electricity don't seem to mix in Maracaibo, Venezuela, where a humongous string of power substation explosions occurred, posted in full Technicolor by the locals on Twitter. So in addition to people eating out of garbage bins, fleeing for their lives on foot to the next available country as real refugees, million-percent inflation and no money, zero health care, bathing from buckets because there is no water, a huge death toll from world's highest crime rate, now there's no electricity due to overloaded circuits and Cuban socialist mismanagement of resources. Kind of shows you just how poisonous the socialism pill is through the entire the body politic. Any comment, Bernie? Any explanation, Alexandria? https://www.americanthinker.co...rough_the_night.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Trivia question, if anybody knows - how do power stations blow up due to neglect? And no, I don't think it's sabotage. | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
Overload, when the circuit breakers are held closed by shirt hanger wire. Serious about crackers | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Thanks! | |||
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39 years ago I wound up in Caracas, due to a bumped Airline flight and they put us up In the Caracas Hilton Hotel. Went upstairs for dinner and the place was loaded with old men and some of the most gorgeous women I've ever seen in my life. Of course in those days, day were the oil barons of Venezuela and their appropriate whores/ mistresses. I wonder where they are now... _________________________ | |||
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If they were wealthy, they are in Miami now. As to the women, Venezuela doesn’t win Miss World/Miss Universe routinely without a good reason | |||
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Wait, what? |
Or making a connection with a non-fused connector. MacGyver got around it by using foil gum wrappers... “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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