It's strange. I have a lot of family in Vermont. I spent a number of summers there back in the late 50's and early 60's. It was soooo conservative and a wonderful place to be. Something happened and the whole state and in particular it's politicians have gone far, far left. Went back there afew years ago. It's a beautiful state but they allow NOTHING like Costcos or theme parks or anything you would see in modern America. It wants to remain "quaint". The Ma and Pa country stores etc. Fine if you don't mind paying $6 for a gallon of milk etc. After you get tired of looking at the green mountains you realize there is nothing to do here. The locals primarily go to New Hamshire to shop as they have the big box stores and so on. It's become a very dull, mundane place. Sad. As far as Venezuela goes if only Bernie would go down and explain to them how they are doing socialism wrong I'm sure things would be just fine.quote:Originally posted by HayesGreener:
Isn't this how it is on Vermont?
quote:Originally posted by kramden:
It's strange. I have a lot of family in Vermont. I spent a number of summers there back in the late 50's and early 60's. It was soooo conservative and a wonderful place to be. Something happened and the whole state and in particular it's politicians have gone far, far left. Went back there afew years ago. It's a beautiful state but they allow NOTHING like Costcos or theme parks or anything you would see in modern America. It wants to remain "quaint". The Ma and Pa country stores etc. .
quote:Originally posted by chellim1:quote:I hate communists, socialists, and authoritarians with my entire being.
So we're all in agreement then?
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quote:Naval Patrol Boat Takes on Cruise Ship. Loses Real Bad.
Turns out you shouldn't ram a cruise ship built to withstand sea ice.
By Kyle Mizokami Apr 2, 2020
A Venezuelan Navy offshore patrol vessel Naiguata sent to intercept a lowly cruise ship accidentally owned itself. After ramming the cruise ship RCGS Resolute's steel-reinforced hull, the patrol boat sank with no injuries. The Resolute suffered only minor damage because it was reinforced to withstand iceberg-infested waters.
According to Maritime Executive, the incident took place 13 nautical miles off the coast of Isla de Tortuga, an uninhabited Venezuelan island. The Naiguata ordered the Resolute to follow it to Venezuela and port, on the pretext of “violation of Venezuelan territorial waters.” While the cruise ship crew was consulting with the home office, the navy vessel fired several warning shots and began ramming the cruise ship.
What the crew of the Naiguata apparently did not realize was that the Resolute’s hull is stronger than average because of its iceberg-resistant hull. The ship’s website describes the hull as having “high density steel plating” to allow it to sail in “ice laden large waters.”
Columbia Cruise Services, operators of the Resolute, tell the ship’s side of the story:quote:While the Master was in contact with the head office, gun shots were fired and, shortly thereafter, the navy vessel approached the starboard side at speed with an angle of 135° and purposely collided with the RCGS RESOLUTE. The navy vessel continued to ram the starboard bow in an apparent attempt to turn the ship’s head towards Venezuelan territorial waters.
While the RCGS RESOLUTE sustained minor damages, not affecting vessel’s seaworthiness, it occurs that the navy vessel suffered severe damages while making contact with the ice-strengthened bulbous bow of the ice-class expedition cruise vessel RCGS RESOLUTE and started to take water.
The Naiguata ended up sinking. According to Columbia Cruise Services, Resolute stayed in the vicinity until the Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre (MRCC) Curaçao, the authority responsible for local incidents at sea, told it to continue on its voyage. Resolute also claims that offers to lend aid to the stricken ship were “left unanswered.”
The Venezuelan military disputed that, stating “the action of the ship Resolute is considered cowardly and criminal, since it did not attend to the rescue of the crew, in breach of the international regulations that regulate the rescue of life at sea.” A statement attributed to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro alleged that the cruise ship was actually to blame in an "act of aggression and piracy."
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Don't bring a patrol boat to a ship fight ...quote:Originally posted by braillediver:
Here's pictures of the RGCS Resolute's damage: Some chipped paint.
quote:A statement attributed to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro alleged that the cruise ship was actually to blame in an "act of aggression and piracy."
quote:Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Some stooopid Venezuelan Naval Officer didn't get the memo that ramming went out of style in Naval Warfare centuries ago...
quote:Originally posted by Woodman:Don't bring a patrol boat to a ship fight ...quote:Originally posted by braillediver:
Here's pictures of the RGCS Resolute's damage: Some chipped paint.
quote:Originally posted by braillediver:
Win for the Cruise Industry. Looks like Venezuela lost 25% of that class ship in the skirmish.
Here's pictures of the RGCS Resolute's damage: Some chipped paint.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...an-cruise-liner.html![]()