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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Yeah, well, I'm a reasonable man, but that's just too damn bad. | |||
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Firearms Enthusiast |
Yes and its a very small rural area with low to almost no crime. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
^^^ So, it goes off every time you bring anything metal in to ship. Q | |||
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| Firearms Enthusiast |
Not sure. I have never seen it go off like most stores do with lights and noise. | |||
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| I've always been Crazy! kept me from goin Insane! |
Probably not a metal detector. What they have is probably Chekpoint systems antitheft rfid equipment. I used to install them in post offices in WA, ID, OR and MT.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Harrison Shooter Supply FFL 07 SOT I am the member formerly known as "Southernmaninla". | |||
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Are you sure its metal detector? I have seem some with a clear plastic panels which would be more inline with anti-theft. If they are metal detectors do they have someone check you? | |||
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| Firearms Enthusiast |
It very well may be for anti-theft. They do have a store inside the that area. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yeah, that's not a metal detector. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Written into the Post Office’s rules, there’s an exception to carrying firearms into the post office for those there on official postal business. The Post Office officially exists to mail things for people; therefore, if you are at the Post Office to mail something or retrieve things mailed to you, you can carry a firearm into the Post Office. This exception is why you can carry long guns into the Post Office, mail them, and nobody cares. FFL holders may even mail handguns with the Post Office. Does this exception negate the federal ban on firearms in federal buildings? It would seem anybody who has shipped firearms using the Post Office has violated federal law, there’s even records for this, and yet how many have ever been prosecuted? | |||
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| Member |
I believe that is incorrect. There was a suit filed in Colorado (?), I think the name was Bodniy where they ruled you could have weapons in a customer parking lot but not the employee parking lot. | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
But these firearms are encased in shipping boxes and presumably unloaded. I don't think it would apply to loaded firearms on one's person. | |||
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Member |
^^^^^ IANAL, buuuuuuut…Ambiguity in the law favors the one who didn’t write it. Just sayin’… "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Member |
This makes sense to me, and I've never gone to a post office for anything other than conducting official business. But I wouldn't want to be the test case. Oh, and concealed means concealed. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
+1 The postal employee's attorney's were the Federal Defenders (i.e. the federal version of public defender's office) so the gov't (Federal Defenders ) literally beat the gov't (Dept of Justice) in a 2A case. That's rich!!! The Dept of Just Us losing to free legal defense made the 2A victory even sweeter. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Short. Fat. Bald. Costanzaesque.  |
I happen to live near the downtown Victoria Tx post office, and it indeed has guarded metal detectors but its in an actual federal building. I've never actually seen anything federal happen there, nor have I ever met any feds in this small town, but who knows anymore.  ___________________________ He looked like an accountant or a serial-killer type. Definitely one of the service industries. | |||
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| Imagination and focus become reality |
No, sorry, you are not on official Post Office business when you come in to buy a book of stamps. Your "therefore" will get you into trouble. Give it a try. Go into your local Post Office and tell them you are carrying a gun and are on official Post Office business and you want a book of stamps.  | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Maybe get your stamps first. | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
It'll be interesting to see if the POs around here remove their doorway metal detectors. I'll go out on a limb and wager not. | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
Well that is another situation where the actual facts are one thing, but I wouldn't want to be the test case. Most lodges, stores, campgrounds, and other facilities are administered by concessionaires or contractors. Even the welcome center is run by non-federal employees with only certain portions staffed by park rangers. Arguably the prohibition does not apply. Only where federal employees regularly execute job duties would be off limits. Since the bathrooms are usually maintained by contractors, there is no job duty for the Ranger in there. Doubly so if it is not inside the main part of a welcome center. Elsewhere in a park I carry concealed without worry. | |||
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