Redundancy in the WVARNG

July 11, 2022, 09:36 AM

VictimNoMore

quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
Well it's Ryan actually. Got his buck sergeant stripes pinned today. I've been an SFC for years.

Touché.
What *is* well done is the fact that both you and your son are WVARNG. Don't see that every day.

July 11, 2022, 10:15 AM

photohause

Well done gentlemen, well done!

July 11, 2022, 10:44 AM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

Making E-5 as a medic was almost unheard of when I was in.

Army must be different? I was Navy, and there were many First Class (E-6) and CPO (E-7) corpsmen.

Matter of fact, we had a SIGforum member (has not posted on the forum for the past five years) who was E-6 -- DocSteve.

July 11, 2022, 10:46 AM

Flash-LB

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

Making E-5 as a medic was almost unheard of when I was in.
Army must be different? I was Navy, and there were many First Class (E-6) and CPO (E-7) corpsmen.

Matter of fact, we had a SIGforum member (has not posted on the forum for the past five years) who was E-6 -- DocSteve.

My brother was Navy, E-5, PO2, Operating Room Technician. He was a medic until he made E5.

July 11, 2022, 01:22 PM

Gustofer

Not sure if they still do it this way or not, but the Army used to promote to NCO on a points system. So many points for time in service/grade, so many points for awards, so many points for PT scores, etc.... The minimum point score to get to E-5 as a medic back then was pretty much set at 998 out of a possible 1000. I may have those numbers off, but in effect, you needed to be perfect in everything and there had to be a slot available for you to even be considered. It was unattainable for anyone on their first enlistment and I knew one guy who didn't make it until late into his second enlistment (8 years in) and another who didn't get it until 10 years in.

July 11, 2022, 02:37 PM

Flash-LB

quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Not sure if they still do it this way or not, but the Army used to promote to NCO on a points system. So many points for time in service/grade, so many points for awards, so many points for PT scores, etc.... The minimum point score to get to E-5 as a medic back then was pretty much set at 998 out of a possible 1000. I may have those numbers off, but in effect, you needed to be perfect in everything and there had to be a slot available for you to even be considered. It was unattainable for anyone on their first enlistment and I knew one guy who didn't make it until late into his second enlistment (8 years in) and another who didn't get it until 10 years in.

When I was in, in the late 60s, some draftees made E5 before ETSing. It wasn't at all unusual to do it inside of two years depending on your MOS and other circumstances. Advancement was based on job performance and not PT score, time in service/grade (for the most part) or awards. I'm talking about personnel in an Infantry outfit, not other outfits which I have little to no experience with.

I was 76Y30, an E5 slot and first got the slot when I was an E2. Needless to say, promotion came quickly.

July 11, 2022, 02:52 PM

Gustofer

quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
Advancement was based on job performance and not PT score, time in service/grade (for the most part) or awards.

And that's the way it should be.

July 11, 2022, 09:37 PM

motor59

One is a Cowan. The other an Eavesdropper.

(Let's see who gets it)

July 12, 2022, 05:43 AM

AllenInAR

Interesting.

According to my late father, the name IS Scottish. Supposedly it was originally MacEaughin (pronounced Mack-ow-in). After immigrating to the US at some point the "ma" part got lost, and the spelling got easier.