Actually, the Chief of Coral Springs PD had some harsh words for the Sheriff. None of the sheriffs deputies even went in after others arrived to help clear the buildings or help look for people that might need help or medical attention.

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Originally posted by justjoe:

...What Mr. Pollack focuses on-- and chews out little sissy Wallace about-- is what can we do, right now, to make schools safer? It's an approach we all should take when confronting the gun grabbers who are politicizing this horror for their own agenda. We should confront them directly: You don't really want to make schools safer, do you? Because arguing about "gun control" won't do one thing today, or next week, or next month, to make one school safer. Armed guards in schools would make schools safer, as they make ever venue where they are employed safer: federal buildings, court houses, airports. Armed teachers would make schools safer. Professionally designed entrance/access systems would make schools safer...

There is some hope for Mike Wallace. At the end of Fox News Sunday there's a panel discussion, he agreed with Kimberly Strassel that hardening schools is one thing we can do NOW. He reminded the sniveling black former Congress lady that banning ARs - she said AUTOMATIC multiple times - is not going to happen, why not do something that WILL work?

I'm guessing that parents stepping up and parenting their children so that they understand that hitting, cutting, stabbing, shooting other people is wrong and NEVER the answer is not on the list of things we can do right now?

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Here is the quote prominently posted on the Broward County superintendent's page which should tell you all you need to know:

Superintendent's Corner

"The battle for quality education is the social justice cause of our time. If you believe that every child has the right to a quality education, then there is no more important work than providing the right leadership to dramatically transform public education in this country."
- Superintendent Robert W. Runcie

-Dtech, thanks for posting that.

See... there's the problem:
If you believe that every child has "the right" to a quality education,... I think you have a mistaken notion of rights and where they come from.

I believe that rights are natural, inherent, and God-given. My rights do not impose a burden on others. If you believe that education is "a right" and that health care is "a right" you are imposing a burden on others to provide it.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
I'd like to know who he was on the phone with...
Was he told not to engage?

I couldn’t care less who he was on the phone with. If he had a pair, he should have made a quick radio call telling what he knew and that he was on his way in. He obviously didn’t have any sand.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Their names should not be mentioned. Their photos should not be displayed. The absolutely stupid question-- "Why did he do it?"-- should not be raised. ("Because he is a fucking monster" is the answer. End of story.)

Agree with all the above except the part about the why. If several reports about psychotropic drugs being a common factor in almost all School shootings are correct that should be aired out in public and changes made.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Here is the quote prominently posted on the Broward County superintendent's page which should tell you all you need to know:

Superintendent's Corner

"The battle for quality education is the social justice cause of our time. If you believe that every child has the right to a quality education, then there is no more important work than providing the right leadership to dramatically transform public education in this country."
- Superintendent Robert W. Runcie

-Dtech, thanks for posting that.

See... there's the problem:
If you believe that every child has "the right" to a quality education,... I think you have a mistaken notion of rights and where they come from.

I believe that rights are natural, inherent, and God-given. My rights do not impose a burden on others. If you believe that education is "a right" and that health care is "a right" you are imposing a burden on others to provide it.

this is another gift of the "school to prison pipeline" nonsense of the ever increasing number of activists. complex issues dont have simple solutions, and if you give a government agency incentive to fiddle with numbers...they will ALWAYS do it.
not to much of a thread drift...but i saw this on hbo this weekend...and was not very sympathetic:
notes from the field

the obama guidance on school discipline has to go. link
"So, the Obama administration issued federal guidance putting school districts on notice that even if their discipline policy was “neutral on its face” and “administered in an evenhanded manner,” they could be subject to a federal civil rights investigation if minorities were suspended at a higher rate."

no way this could possibly lead to unchecked pathologies and severe issues with keeping faculty, and the student body safe....

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Originally posted by slosig:

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Their names should not be mentioned. Their photos should not be displayed. The absolutely stupid question-- "Why did he do it?"-- should not be raised. ("Because he is a fucking monster" is the answer. End of story.)

Agree with all the above except the part about the why. If several reports about psychotropic drugs being a common factor in almost all School shootings are correct that should be aired out in public and changes made.

Well, the people who are on these drugs are on them for a reason, that being that they are somewhat screwed up in the head to begin with.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
There is some hope for Mike Wallace.

You are an optimistic sort. Mike's been dead for 6 years.

It's his son Chris, who's on Fox.

Doesn’t look like its been discussed, but I heard on the news yesterday that the school district is asking for $23 million to demo the building where it took place and then build a new one on the site.

I get that the building would maybe cause some issues for survivors, but this idea seems a touch expensive and unnecessary to me, especially at such a cost.

Maybe they could get by with some remodel and reconfiguration, rename it and dedicate it the victims for a WHOLE lot less.


Thoughts?

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
Doesn’t look like its been discussed, but I heard on the news yesterday that the school district is asking for $23 million to demo the building where it took place and then build a new one on the site.

I get that the building would maybe cause some issues for survivors, but this idea seems a touch expensive and unnecessary to me, especially at such a cost.

Maybe they could get by with some remodel and reconfiguration, rename it and dedicate it the victims for a WHOLE lot less.


Thoughts?

It's stupid to demolish the building. They'll still be inhabiting the exact location where the horror took place, and removing the building won't erase the memory.

What will they do if there's another tragedy at that location in the new building, bulldoze it, too?

It would be much wiser to put those millions into security enhancements for the entire campus.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Well, the people who are on these drugs are on them for a reason, that being that they are somewhat screwed up in the head to begin with.

If your cherub needs medication (that may or may not make matters worse) to be amongst the general population perhaps an institution should be the FIRST option.

^^^

Remodel, have the students be involved in the process and some of the work.

It would likely be better for them than trying to obliterate what happened.

But the left is big on whitewashing and covering what is, in the guise of helping, when the result is destruction.

Cost, notwithstanding.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
Doesn’t look like its been discussed, but I heard on the news yesterday that the school district is asking for $23 million to demo the building where it took place and then build a new one on the site.

Thus demonstrating part of how people like Cruz get to where he got and just how badly broken is our "education" system.

Clean up and repair, and possibly some remodel. Send children that cannot get over it to another school.

Carry the frack on.

Jesus Christ on a crutch!

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
^^^

Remodel, have the students be involved in the process and some of the work.

It would likely be better for them than trying to obliterate what happened.

But the left is big on whitewashing and covering what is, in the guise of helping, when the result is destruction.

Cost, notwithstanding.

When you are spending someone else’s money, there is no point in skimping.... or scrimping, either!

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by slosig:

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Their names should not be mentioned. Their photos should not be displayed. The absolutely stupid question-- "Why did he do it?"-- should not be raised. ("Because he is a fucking monster" is the answer. End of story.)

Agree with all the above except the part about the why. If several reports about psychotropic drugs being a common factor in almost all School shootings are correct that should be aired out in public and changes made.

Well, the people who are on these drugs are on them for a reason, that being that they are somewhat screwed up in the head to begin with.

When I was an SRO and a student was arrested for some minor violations I was amazed at the reactions many parents had to their child's actions. I can't tell you how many parents first disciplinary action was to take their child to the doctors office and change their medications. Another problem with these drugs is many of these kids don't take their meds and hand them out like they are Pez.

“FULL METAL GARB”:

Teacher grazed by Parkland shooter’s bullet: ‘Shooter was in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle I’ve never seen before’



“I suddenly saw the shooter about twenty feet in front of me standing at the end of the hallway actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets, and I’m staring at him thinking why are the police here,this is strange because he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before,” Lippel told Good Morning America last Wednesday.

The brave teacher said she told fellow Stoneman Douglas H.S. teacher Scott Beigel, 35, to get back in his room just before the shooter fired a number of rounds into his room killing him and other students.

For a minute, contrast what the Broward County deputies did and did not do with what happened last year at another school in the opposite corner of the continental United States.

Also contrast the press conference in the following link (it’s long, but well worth watching in its entirety) by the Sheriff in that jurisdiction. Compare it with Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel’s performance. Decide who the real man is here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7oRfEMosj0

Coward County Sheriff is now stating through his attorney that he thought the shooter was outside. Uh huh.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Coward County Sheriff is now stating through his attorney that he thought the shooter was outside. Uh huh.

Sure he did...As all the teachers and many students ran past him cowering under a stair well toward the sound of shots IN THE BUILDING.