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Crooked investigators, lawyers, and what not. We've got a local trial coming up. Looks like no one is real honest in this fiasco.

The story is pretty simple. Some on again off again girlfriend isn't willing to let her BF break up. So she goes to his home and shoots him 6 times and he dies. So she claims domestic abuse and that she needed to shoot him. OK. She's found guilty (as sin) and earns 40 years for her efforts. They try every trick they can think of, including a battered woman defense (no evidence). So off she goes to the state pen. All is good with the world. Except her still working lawyers discover one of the jurors was ineligible because he had a felony conviction. So a lenient judge orders a new trial.

And then the defense team decides she can't get a fair trial. So they support their motion with a whole handful of notarized statements to support that bias. Then along comes the prosecutor who looks at all the names and see's they're all about the same handwriting. Worse, one of his prosecutors is on the list. Cool. So they investigate the investigator and discover that at leas 110 of them are fraudulent. Its so cool I can't stand it. So now they're withdrawing their motion for change of venue.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/state...trial-based-on-fraud


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So the judge followed the law in ordering a new trial, because every defendant is entitled to a proper trial without a tainted jury.

And the Commonwealth Attorney is alleging criminal fraud on the part of the defense and their investigator, and the Highland Heights police are investigating. Also, judges both liberal and conservative, tend to get really pissed when you try to commit fraud in their courtrooms or put one over on them.

Sounds to me like the system is working the way it is supposed to work.

Yes, people lie, cheat, steal and kill. But in this case, the wheels of justice are turning. And while they can turn slowly, they can also grind to a fine powder. I wouldn't want to be on the defense team that filed that motion, nor would I want to be that investigator.

Queenie will get a new trial, and if guilty, will go back in the pen for 40 years. If found not guilty, we will have to accept, like it or not, that the jury did its job.



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You forgot to mention one of the most oddball interrogation room recordings of a suspect possibly ever!


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Is there a link to the entire video? So far I've only found brief clips, and while seemingly weird behavior, the entire video would offer better context for the behavior.


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Originally posted by ArtieS:
So the judge followed the law in ordering a new trial, because every defendant is entitled to a proper trial without a tainted jury.

And the Commonwealth Attorney is alleging criminal fraud on the part of the defense and their investigator, and the Highland Heights police are investigating. Also, judges both liberal and conservative, tend to get really pissed when you try to commit fraud in their courtrooms or put one over on them.

Sounds to me like the system is working the way it is supposed to work.

Yes, people lie, cheat, steal and kill. But in this case, the wheels of justice are turning. And while they can turn slowly, they can also grind to a fine powder. I wouldn't want to be on the defense team that filed that motion, nor would I want to be that investigator.

Queenie will get a new trial, and if guilty, will go back in the pen for 40 years. If found not guilty, we will have to accept, like it or not, that the jury did its job.

Well said. We have a system and, by and large, it works pretty well.

It is well and good that we have a very stringent, strict process by which we convict people of crimes and imprison them. Sometimes that means guilty people get off on technicalities, but its better than wrongly imprisoning people, imo.



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