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It is unfortunate that school shootings, while still rare, have become common enough that schools are discussing which weapons to give to whom.

The Autauga County school system is considering providing non-lethal weapons in classrooms. The weapons would include pepper spray, collapsible batons, and Flexi-cuffs.

I guess the plan would be to use the pepper spray to throw the attacker off balance, bonk them firmly on the head with the baton, and then handcuff them with a Flexi-cuff until the authorities arrive.

I like it.

In theory.

It's the same way you fight a wasp. Except generally we stomp the wasp to death. Do we owe a would-be school shooter any more compassion than we do the average insect?

Who came up with the idea of non-lethal weapons? It sounds good, and it is very politically correct, but in what circumstance exactly would one need a non-lethal weapon? A weapon's purpose is to protect. Whatever happened to the old adage, "never take a knife to a gunfight?"

There are two types of people in this world - those who are comfortable with guns, and those who are scared to touch them.

If you live in a rural area, you learn not to fear guns. Children grow up being taught to respect them and how to use them. Shotguns are still kept in certain corners of many country people's houses. In places like the Black Belt, there are hen houses to protect, cattle to be kept safe from coyotes, wild hogs that have to be controlled, and rattlesnakes. Boys are gifted guns before they are old enough to hold them.

Men promise guns that their granddaddies left to them, to grandsons who haven't even been born yet. Guns are linked back to survival. If a man - or woman - had a gun, they could eat and they could defend their family.

A gun is still the great equalizer. A 120 pound woman can take on a 300 pound man effortlessly with most any loaded, cocked, and aimed firearm - if need be.

It is an agreement you just have to make with yourself. Set your boundaries, and hold your ground. If someone chooses to enter your home - or your classroom - and they are wielding a gun, shoot them, and take it up with the law and the Lord later.

Someone has to be prepared to protect students.

That's where we are.

And we have to accept that if a gunman enters a school...they aren't there to rob the place. There is no room for compromise.

Who is going to protect the students?

The children? Yet we are going to provide them with non-lethal weapons. We are going to equip them with no possible chance of winning.

Who the hell is running the show?



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How freaking sad!
Rod


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Who is running the show?

A bunch of uneducated, wishful thinking idiot who were educated at the brain-washing institutions we now call universities or colleges.

When I was in junior, or senior, high school we could actually get a week of excused absence if we provided a note from parents that said we were going big game hunting with our families.

My first gun was a single shot Win. 22 which I received at age 12. Which put a lot of meat on our table!


Elk

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Considering non-lethal weapons in classrooms is like giving certain sheep in the flock fangs and sharp teeth to protect the flock with.

Expecting any kind of serious protection is nothing more than wishful thinking, because the protectors are still, sheep!

Providing "fangs and sharp teeth" is useless if the user does not have the proper mind set to, or is incapable of, using them.


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Quick test of the effectiveness of this approach.

1 - Assemble a class of high school seniors and their teacher.
2 - Provide them with all the non-lethal implements noted above along with education how best to use them.
3 - Then at some point during the day, someone fire a handgun outside of that classroom.

My bet, ever last student and their teacher would forget everything they'd been taught and run for a corner to hide in. Even though we might condemn the tools being offered to the kids and teachers, its ultimately their lack of will that would lead to their demise.

This is, yet again, another foray in the 'stupid-on-steroids' approach to dealing with a problem. Just hire armed security for schools.


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