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9th Circuit Court Issues Absurd Ruling on Concealed and Open Carry
March 26, 2021, 10:42 AM
konata889th Circuit Court Issues Absurd Ruling on Concealed and Open Carry
There desperately needs to be some form of accountability and checks/balances for judges. They can pass meritless and even unconstitutional decisions based on bias rather than law. This needs to stop.
If a decision is blatantly illegal to a reasonable man standard, for example, and becomes overruled by a higher court, the judges involved in the bad ruling and perhaps even lawyers arguing in favor of the bad ruling should be disbarred immediately.
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book March 26, 2021, 02:56 PM
nhtagmemberI'd go one further
if it involves a ruling that is clearly unconstitutional or leads to the violation of someone's civil rights, I'd be in favor of not only disbarment, but immediate prosecution and being held without bail until they can be tried
we need a much better class of judges and the only way to get that will be to purge 99% of them, or make it so untenable to fuck with common sense that they stand to lose more than the plaintiff
we can no longer afford to have unaccountable judges
March 26, 2021, 04:12 PM
konata88+1
No excuse for a judge and lawyers not to know when they are arguing against the letter or even spirit of the constitution. They just rationalize to their bias.
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book March 26, 2021, 05:26 PM
Elk HunterWell, it is the "ninth!" after all. A lot of their rulings are overturned.
I deeply believe that before any judge can be appointed, or moved to a circuit court that they have to pass a college level test on federal law, and the constitution itself.
How hard is "It shall not be infringed" to be misunderstood. Yes, I know about that "militia" thing. What the "ninth" seems not to understand that "militia" meant the general population back then, and still does.
Elk
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March 26, 2021, 05:30 PM
chongosuertePerhaps we should take their immunity away, too.
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March 26, 2021, 05:39 PM
nhtagmembergreat idea....make them 'equal' with all of us peons
March 29, 2021, 09:13 AM
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^^^^^ If that were to come to pass, I really believe that court cases would reach SCOTUS and that "bear" would get a favorable hearing. It may be that states/localities might be able to control some aspects of "bearing", but I don't think a total ban would pass Constittutional muster.
flashguy
A complete ban on bear would absolutely now pass constitutional muster in any state in the CA9 under this ruling. If SCOTUS doesn't take the appeal (and it will be appealed), we're likely stuck with it until a new case challenging a new law winds its way back to SCOTUS over 10 years or so. The 9th isn't going to reverse itself and any inferior courts within the 9th will have to rule consistent with Young.
I'm not an attorney, just used to being fucked on gun rights by CA9.
Sorry, Constitutional muster is ultimately decided by SCOTUS. Until that happens, it is undecided (but may be applied).
flashguy
Agreed. In application, it doesn't matter unless/until SCOTUS decides.