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Derek Hunter
February 4, 2018

This week we saw a perfect example of how corrupt journalism has become. There was an opportunity to report the news and journalists and their fellow travelers in the pundit class balked. While that wasn’t unusual, what was is how they did it in the lead up to the news, not bothering to wait until they’d seen what they were attempting to discredit. There was an unprecedented attempt to make the release of the FISA memo NOT NEWS before anyone knew what was in it.

Over the past two weeks, Democrats scrambled to “warn” the public that the release of the FISA memo would “damage national security” were it released. Journalists picked up the mantra and ran with it, unquestioningly parroting it in badgering Republicans about why they would support its release considering this charge. There was virtually no discussion as to whether or not this allegation was true or an attempted partisan distraction, it was simply accepted and repeated as if it had been carved into stone tablets by a burning bush and sent directly to the teleprompter in their TV studios.

The memo, of course, was nothing of the sort. There was nothing that was a threat in any way to national security, no remote mention of sources or methods. It was all a Democratic Party lie immediately adopted by journalists. As with past false stories that needed to be retracted or corrected, there was no comeuppance for those who spread the lie to the media, nor the media figures who regurgitated it. It happened, and when it was proven to be a lie, it was memory-holed. (This story on the subject to not even mention it.)

The lying by Democrats in the lead up to the memo’s release wasn’t surprising, nor was the complicity of journalists in spreading that lie. What was is how there was virtually no curiosity or interest in the memo and its contents in the days leading to its release from the people whose job it is supposed to be to convey information to the public. All journalists did was attempt to taint it’s release so as to foster disinterest in it in their audience when they could finally see it.

Once it was released to the public, the discussion shifted to anything but its contents or the fact that unverified Clinton campaign opposition research was used as justification to spy on an American citizen without disclosing that’s what it was.

Now, I don’t know anything about Carter Page, the subject of that spying, beyond the fact that he’s an American citizen. He could be a Russian robot, for all I know. But he’s apparently been the subject of constant government surveillance since 2013 and hasn’t been arrested. That means he’s either the world’s greatest spy who doesn’t leave a fingerprint anywhere, or he’s just some weird guy who, once the government started watching him, they couldn’t stop. I suspect it the latter since the Clinton oppo file had to be used, at least in part, to justify the continued spying.

No one in the media bothered to ask or seemed to care. (There are two very interesting threads on the FISA warrants here from a Member of Congress and especially here from an attorney. I recommend reading them.)

“Journalists” close to Fusion GPS, the Democratic Party front group that helped keep Clinton’s fingerprints off the oppo research, declared the memo a nothingburger. Liberal journalists who routinely report leaks from the left went so far as to complain that conservative outlets got a small head start. (This is a story that will never be written about NBC News or the New York Times. It’s also wild speculation, which is the exact opposite of what journalism is supposed to be.)

Democrats began leaking their claim there is evidence refuting the memo, but didn’t give any and didn’t have to in order for that claim to be reported.

Before its release, MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell wasn’t interested, only “concerned” the American people finding out what our government does will “risk 40 years of congressional oversight of the agencies.” How? No need to explain, just declare it and move on. It’s not clear how the FBI and Department of Justice could cooperate less with congressional oversight than they have been, but if they did, according to Mitchell, this burning of the Constitution would be justified because we got a quick peek behind the curtain.

The media clowns came piling out of their car, too. Evan McMullin declared any potential violation of an American’s civil liberties by the government to be just fine because it involved Donald Trump. Liberal CNN conservative Matt Lewis declared the whole thing a “dud,” much to the delight of other desperate Green Room dwellers. In reading these and other poorly written pieces, it’s fairly clear these conclusions were planned before the allegations were heard. Anything for more airtime.

CNN and MSNBC had panels exclusively of liberals denouncing the memo without discussing its implications or content. If the government can award itself the power to spy on Americans simply because someone got drunk and talked themselves up in front of others (George Papadopoulos) and someone else made allegations about that person (Page), there is virtually no one in the country who couldn’t be subjected to government spying.

Journalists weren’t interested in that, or anything else associated with the memo. They, like McMullin, couldn’t care less about government abusing its power as long as it does it against people they don’t like. We saw this play out with the IRS scandal during the Obama administration – the media ignored it as long as they could, talked about it for a quick minute, then returned to repeating the lie that Obama’s tenure was “scandal-free.”

Were Trump not President, were the Oval Office occupied by any of the other candidates who ran in 2016, the story would be nearly the same. There might not be the personal ferocity or sense of urgency, but the simmering contempt would still be there and it would still dominate the actions of these people.

They don’t care. Journalism is dead. It didn’t die of natural causes, it was murdered by its practitioners in the name of attacking Republicans, in particular Donald Trump.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The propagandists have evolved into Bolshevists. It is a natural progression. Bolshevists are Bolshevists first.



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Objective journalism in the MSM died long before this episode.



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Journalism died in 2008. Everything the author said is true but it’s like writing an autopsy report from the perspective that the patients is still dead and all evidence is in support of still being dead (as opposed to why patient died).



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Journalism has been dead for a long time. Now it’s pretty much propaganda packaged as news and “journalism”. Fuck the media.


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The propagandists have evolved into Bolshevists. It is a natural progression. Bolshevists are Bolshevists first.


I thiink Bolshevists are similar to Natonal Socialists, such as Goebbels. Smile




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Originally posted by tatortodd:
Journalism died in 2008.


Look up Walter Duranty Smile

'Journalism' died a long, long time ago. I remember as a teenager asking my Dad why the media hated Ronald Reagan so much. It has slowly gotten worse over the decades, but starting at least back in the 70's, journalism schools started teaching that the role of the journalist was to effect social change. Watergate was their ultimate 'gotcha' and became the goal of young journalists everywhere.



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The Watergate scandal certainly changed journalism.

Before, reporters were happy, or at least willing, to keep some of what they thought they knew and saw and heard discretely to themselves. One didn’t write about the eccentricities of the powerful, like politicians, their mistresses, substance abuses, unless those became public in some undignified way, like dancing drunk in a fountain with a stripper onto the police blotter. Now, every third rate burglary might be a lot more!

After Woodward and Bernstein became famous, wealthy, influential Pulitzer Prize winners played in the movies by Redford and whatzizname, all that discrete “lips are sealed” nonsense went out the window. Everyone is looking to grab the gold ring to fame and fortune.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The propagandists have evolved into Bolshevists. It is a natural progression. Bolshevists are Bolshevists first.


I thiink Bolshevists are similar to Natonal Socialists, such as Goebbels. Smile


I watched a lecture by Dinesh D'Sousa the other day wherein he described in his efficient and undeniable way how those political methods are all linked and on the Left. He described how FDR and the Leftists in media and academia lied to the public after WWII that Fascism and Nazism were on the Right because of their authoritarian/dictatorial nature. The public swallowed it in ignorance. No doubt you understand the political spectrum properly explained where extreme Left is authoritarian/dictatorial/tyrannical and extreme Right is anarchy. True liberty and prosperity lies Right of center. Were this explained in education, we would likely not be in The Matrix we find ourselves. Blue pill anyone?



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Journalism has been dead for quite a while.


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since the Clinton oppo file had to be used, at least in part, to justify the continued spying.


the lead line that identified such justification, IMHO, was uttered by Edward Kennedy when he was raving on the Senate floor, something about 'the truthfulness of the facts are not as important as the severity of the charges'. Sorry I can't locate search right now on exact words, but the phrase as been used numerous times by DNC politicians even recently.


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A few years ago there was a case in GA I think of a journalist who was fired for reporting the facts of a story and refusing to spin it. He sued and lost his case. The court found that while as a journalist you are supposed to report facts, ultimately your first duty is to your employer.

This was the day that journalism lost all credibility to me.

We discussed it on the forum a while back but I don't remember the guy's name.



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