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January 08, 2018, 06:25 PM
Skins2881
My son's addiction
I have no advice or anything helpful to add. Just wanted you to know he will be in my prayers. This is a hard thing to break, if he succeeds, he'll fix all the other things he's broken eventually.



Jesse

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January 08, 2018, 06:27 PM
Spokane228
These stories are heart wrenching. Prayers to everyone and their loved ones.
January 08, 2018, 06:34 PM
irreverent
My heart goes out to you, and anyone who has struggled with this addiction.

I have family with a similar problem (fentanyl, alcohol, oxy) and the toll it’s taken has been almost too much to bear.
As a poster mentioned, get in touch with a support group if you can. I tried to attend, but could not connect with the group, however support groups helped my mother and sister tremendously. I myself have real anger issues resulting from decades long bullshit being fed to me by someone who was once as you described your son: a vibrant, intelligent, beautiful person. Now I just see and hear the drugs talking to me. It’s horrifying. And I’ve encountered several acquaintances that have displayed similar characteristics: “if only a doctor would listen to them and understand their pain, their need for medication”. It’s amazing and frightening how similar the stories and the presentation is.
This is your son. I watched my parents deal with their firstborn and the lying, subterfuge, the utter, blatant, uncaring attitude towards the gifts that child was given: their life, their health, their opportunities, and oh, so much money to try and save them from themselves.

Turn every stone to try and save him, but try and hold your heart in check, knowing you can only do so much. Lose the addictive wife. Only those of us who have truly seen this in the face of someone we love knows how terrifying it can be. If you can keep him out of jail, I hate to say it, but it might be best to try and do so. The only thing my family member learned from the rehab centers, etc were new methods to obscure the addiction and score drugs (from the other addicts)..


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January 08, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sig209
I'm very sorry to hear that.

All I can say is: don't enable. If he does something great - tell him. If he does something stupid - tell him.

But make sure he knows you love him (but won't be taken advantage of)

I have an adult child who does things I am not fond of sometimes. It happens but they are grown.

Everything I have ever read says there is nothing you can do to save them if they don't want to save themselves.

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Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
January 08, 2018, 06:43 PM
Catalina
Simply awful. I'll keep you my prayers.

quote:
He was injured surfing years ago and had oxycontin prescribed for oral surgery


The medical profession shares much of the blame for the opioid crisis.
January 08, 2018, 06:45 PM
fpuhan
Add my prayers as well.

There is NOTHING YOU can do. Seriously. NOTHING.

An addict has to hit bottom. Some never do, and the bottom hits them.

You should find a support group like Al-Anon FOR YOURSELF.

God bless you.




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January 08, 2018, 07:01 PM
flintlock3
Very sorry to hear this. My son has been an addict for 5 years now. Has seen the pearly gates at least 5 times. They just wouldn't let him in. Narcan saved him. Big hurdle is finding good support group after rehab, like a church group. We are still looking for that. Wish I had a good referral for rehab to provide. We are trying to get him to surrender to the authorities for DUI charge if we can find him. My heart aches for you.
January 08, 2018, 07:05 PM
r0gue
Profoundly sad. I'm quite certain were I prescribed that stuff, I'd fall just the same.




January 08, 2018, 07:08 PM
Haveme1or2
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
You might check to see if that jurisdiction has a Drug Court, and whether your son is a candidate. It's usually for first time, non-violent, drug-related offenders.

For those who are serious about wanting help, Drug Court can allow the opportunity to access inpatient/outpatient substance abuse treatment with little to no out of pocket cost, since it sounds like he's broke.

And depending on the exact laws/policies of that area, he may also have the chance to have the charge kept off his record if he does what he's supposed to do, so it doesn't necessarily have to ruin his life/career.

And if he doesn't follow through with what he's supposed to do in Drug Court, then the tougher consequences kick in.


I agree. He'll have to get meeting attendance papers signed ...... Narcotics anonymous meetings are saving many many people.
It's not a moral problem it's a disease. It can't be explained to those that haven't experienced it.

I wish y'all well.
January 08, 2018, 07:12 PM
ewills
Had surgery twice the past year. I passed on the painkillers. They don't do me any real good. Prayers sent for your son. I sincerely hope he wakes up from the mess he is in. A lot of folks have walked away from this kind of danger. It takes a lot work and commitment....and help from family.
January 08, 2018, 07:16 PM
pwelch001
I'm so, so sorry for this. I'm still in the process of trying to get my family back on track from a close loved ones opiate addiction. Unfortunately, as others have said, rock bottom is the only place to start from, and only if he is ready. It's a hellish existence, I still don't know of or when we will recover. But, she is clean, and doing well, and for that I'm thankful. If you want to talk or need anything, please e mail me. I'll be praying.
January 08, 2018, 07:22 PM
jdmb03
Hang in there. We went through the same with our son. Oxy then heroin. Stole from his brother, car accident, fleeing the scene, foreclosure, girlfriend left him. He finally decided to seek treatment when he hit bottom. We paid for 90 days of inpatient treatment. He continued with outpatient treatment after that. He went back to school and finished his BS. That was eight years ago. He has been doing awesome ever since. Good career, nice salary, recently engaged.
January 08, 2018, 07:58 PM
cgode
damn...this hits home....i’m in the beginning stages of dealing with this with my daughter...she’s 17 and addicted heroin and our family is reeling! I’m pretty much lost right now and looking for answers...I’m getting the feeling there just aren’t any. Frown


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January 08, 2018, 08:00 PM
P-220
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.


Niech Zyje P-220

Steve
January 08, 2018, 08:11 PM
VictimNoMore
You are not alone.
Please find an Al-Anon group local to you, for your support.
Pain is one hell of a motivator. Hopefully, your son will use the pain and anguish to make a change.
I am a credentialed Recovery Coach in the state of West Virginia, and am here to help if you or your son need it.
My email is in my profile, and it is always open to you.
January 08, 2018, 08:15 PM
OKCGene
Prayers up, may God Bless.
January 08, 2018, 08:22 PM
jimb888
My heart goes out to you brother. I clicked the link hoping your boy had a P210 addiction. Daughter has had issues with that crap, and for whatever reason, medical people will give her oxicodone and crap like that if she just starts sniffling. The medical assholes really burn my ass about it. "Oh, you have no say in the matter - sniff, sniff" "Sniff Oh, hippa means we can't share any information about your daughter because she's not a minor, sniff sniff"

Fucking assholes.
January 08, 2018, 08:37 PM
acidjazz
I'm so sorry to hear that.
It's an absolute epidemic, and many people started out well to do and from good homes, with good jobs, and good futures, got prescribed after an injury and then they go down the road of hell.

I'm a Probation Officer. I see people get better, turn themselves around, go back down the path and it goes to hell again. The biggest heart breaking calls are from parents begging me to help their kids.

I hope that he gets through this.
Somebody recommended this book on a similar thread before;
https://www.amazon.com/Cant-Jo...-ebook/dp/B00L323PME
January 08, 2018, 08:41 PM
KevinCW
I have some suggestions for you if that is not too bold.

Feel free to email me.





Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up."
January 08, 2018, 08:54 PM
kkina
It's funny you should post this now. I have been using opiate pain meds for several years (fibromyalgia), and am addicted. My current goal is to ween off the meds, and use regular physical workouts to manage the pain (from the natural release of endorphins).

I know I can do it, as I've kicked off the meds twice already, both times cold turkey. Yes, it was sheer hell that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The trouble is after kicking it off, you normally have to go right back on because the pain is still there.

I'm using a more gradual approach this time, weening off slowly. I think I can do it without support meds like Suboxone. I'm already down to less than 6 doses a day, down from a dizzying 14, after only a month.

So far, so good.



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