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I came through Spokane yesterday early morning. Fire broke out later in the day. Hundreds of homes burned. Horrible conditions. Its very bad. Prayers for all involved and impacted. Stlhead, I hope you and other members are safe. Another reason to hate this time of year. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | ||
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Had not heard about this, I have a friend who lives about an hour north of Spokane, tried to call him just now, went to voice mail. Praying that he and everyone else in the area will be o.k. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tomorrow's battle is won during today's practice. | |||
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| Freethinker |
Nothing like being personally affected even very slightly to focus one’s attention on such things. As I’ve posted elsewhere, we were close to the pre-evac notice zone for a “human caused” fire that’s been pretty well suppressed after a month of effort except for hot spots that could flare up. It was only 7000+ acres in mostly wilderness, but the reported cost was >$20M. The highly-publicized stage 2 fire restrictions due to the tinder dry conditions have been in effect for the entire time. And so what was reported a couple of days ago? Of course: an unattended camp fire.  I can only dimly imagine what it would be like to lose one’s home, not to mention worse, to such deliberate indifference, and my earlier suggestion that the fine should be 100× the current $250 for the first offense? Nope. Wood chipper time. ► 6.0/94.0 “The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” — Bertrand Russell | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Spoke too soon.  Yeesh! It's getting thick out there.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Gustofer, ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
I saw something on the news that apparently 4M acres of the US are burning and 2M of those are in eastern WA, OR and ID. I have the Watch Duty app and the entire eastern side is on fire. | |||
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https://app.watchduty.org/i/112554 _____________________________________________ Proverbs 3:31 "Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways." | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
The fire situation is even worse when you factor in Can-eh-duh:  Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Call me paranoid but with the looney left's love affair with the 3rd world's terrorists, I'm saying these fires are being accompanied by a shout: "Aloha Snackbar!" | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
I hate August. If it ain't the heat (thankfully we usually have a < 10% humidity around these parts), it is the got dang fires! 40 years ago when I was marching up mountain ridges carrying a Pulaski, NONE of these fires got beyond a few acres (depending on the wind). Money. It is all about money. Guys digging line, guys in dozers, guys driving water tenders, guys flying sky cranes, All of them are making thousands of dollars a day. Me? Five-ish bucks an hour, which was much better than minimum wage flipping burgers or pumping gas at the time. One the one hand, good for them, but on the other hand? What an incredible waste of money and resources. Go back to the old way. Lookouts spotting smokes and a few squads of patrolling guys knocking these things down before they get this way. I'm sick of it. Every year now we deal with this. When I was growing up here I don't ever remember dealing with the valley being socked in with smoke. Ever. Good forest management and good fire suppression efforts made all the difference. Thank you Bill Clinton for fucking up the west. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Freethinker |
That’s something I’ve often thought about since the day back in the 1970s when I hiked to the top of a local Arizona peak and found that the lookout was a young, attractive woman a long way from anyone else. It was only in retrospect that it occurred to me that my hanging around for a short friendly chat may have made her nervous. Would anyone like that do that today? Oh, yeah. When I mentioned lightning storms, she said she was advised to put glass electrical line insulators under the four feet of a wooden chair and sit in the middle of the hut with her legs drawn up from the floor. As far as smoke spotters, could AI-supported sensors do the same now? ► 6.0/94.0 “The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” — Bertrand Russell | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
You'd be surprised.
I had a wooden chair on the floor with each leg sitting in a shot glass. 80 feet off the the ground. My tower took a direct hit one night. Blew the windows out, turned the shutters into splinters, and made me have to change my skivvies. I'll not forget watching that storm come through and looking at the hair on my arms standing straight up. That was a fun night. 18 and bulletproof? Not so much when Mother Nature has a say. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Freethinker |
Evidently. ► 6.0/94.0 “The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” — Bertrand Russell | |||
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The fire in Spokane is three hours east of me and a little north. But the fires to the west of me, Southwest of me, and in Central Oregon are smoking me out. I usually can see the Columbia River and Horse Heaven Hills from my back door... not so much today. Earlier I could barely make out the Horse Heaven Hills, but later on more smoke rolled in making visibility about two miles at best. My inhaler and decongestants are getting a workout. __________________________ More blessed than I deserve. http://davesphotography7055.zenfolio.com/f238091154 | |||
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| Power is nothing without control |
You don’t even need AI. We have a literal satellite in space that looks for fires 24/7. You can read more about it here: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ - Bret | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
Occam’s razor says that the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is usually the correct one. Option 1: The region is facing historic, record-setting drought, low snowpack, and heatwaves that has turned grass and forests into a tinderbox. The fires were caused by one of the two historical top causes of wildfires: Option 2: Islamic terrorist infiltrated the US starting the fires. However, so far they have failed to kill anyone, didn't target any sworn enemies (e.g. setting a synagogue on fire and it turning into a wildfire), didn't instill national fear and panic, and didn't take credit on social media or Al Jazeera. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2084511911094210703 This message has been edited. Last edited by: HRK, | |||
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Imagine that. This guy was apparently a convicted felon as well. (manslaughter) Climate apologists still won't change their deluded narrative. | |||
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Just based upon what's been said, it could be a thin case however, there's usually much more that hasn't been revealed where they returned to arrest https://www.krem.com/article/n...dc-a75d-839b554a05a1
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| Thank you Very little |
Hang him High from the trees of the area he destroyed. https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2084683786415923346 | |||
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Some crazy damage in that video, all the worse with that nut starting it deliberately. Tell that looney left above talking about climate change that we may need a background check to buy matches. That would make as much sense as blaming it on climate change. | |||
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