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Sucker Puncher vs. Concealed Carrier…video in Twitter link

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September 09, 2022, 09:57 AM
erj_pilot
Sucker Puncher vs. Concealed Carrier…video in Twitter link
https://twitter.com/eclipsethi.../1568009704877719552

Just putting this out here. Not sure of the justification and legality of actions from the sucker punched victim, though I don’t blame him for his reaction and FULLY understand it. My thought is, “Stupid should hurt”. And it looks like it did.

Safe day to all…



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September 09, 2022, 10:16 AM
Vgex
Understandable. Have a great day
September 09, 2022, 10:20 AM
parabellum
Oh well
September 09, 2022, 10:24 AM
jhe888
That may be a little hard to justify. The puncher seemed to be done punching, and the guy who got punched left, and then came back to shoot the guy.

I am sympathetic, but the shooter could be in trouble.




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September 09, 2022, 10:29 AM
MikeinNC
He won’t be sucker punching anyone again.



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September 09, 2022, 10:32 AM
Slippery Pete
Hockey gods say play on. Worked itself out.


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September 09, 2022, 10:42 AM
tigereye313
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I suspect the victim would've been in a better legal position had he not stepped outside and then came back in before smoking Mr. Sucker Punch.




September 09, 2022, 10:59 AM
Krazeehorse
Is that a security camera that someone is panning and zooming in real time?


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September 09, 2022, 11:01 AM
parabellum
It's cellphone video of a TV monitor.
September 09, 2022, 11:02 AM
Timdogg6
quote:
Originally posted by tigereye313:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I suspect the victim would've been in a better legal position had he not stepped outside and then came back in before smoking Mr. Sucker Punch.


I gotta agree, that isn't looking too good for him


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September 09, 2022, 11:05 AM
Ryanp225
I'd like to thank the shooter for taking the time to make our world a slightly better place.
In a sane world he'd have been handed a store gift card on the spot for his public service.
September 09, 2022, 11:13 AM
DennisM
Did the shooter stick around? I don't see him re-enter the frame.
September 09, 2022, 11:15 AM
83v45magna
I would be shocked if this guy (the leaky one) can't be shown to be doing this kind of shit on a regular basis.

I expect a defense attorney to illustrate that the 'victim' constituted a reign of terror in that school (if not a whole area) that ended when he got ventilated.

But I'm also sure the shooter will receive a life sentence. It is Chicago after all.

If this was an episode of Gunsmoke, the shooter would be having drinks bought for him at the saloon before the music swells and the credits roll.
September 09, 2022, 11:19 AM
83v45magna
I like the big guy who ran to the end of the hall when dip-shit took his hot lead injection, then strolls by him as if he's not there right afterwards.
September 09, 2022, 11:28 AM
hberttmank
Sucker Puncher got what he deserved.



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September 09, 2022, 11:29 AM
Gustofer
I hate to say it, but it's looking more and more like this is what it is going to take.

Paraphrasing Tom Cotton from the other day, these people are animals preying on us. They need to either be incarcerated or executed.


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September 09, 2022, 11:39 AM
sigmonkey
When someone does a "warm reboot" on another, the time it takes the operating system to reload, basic functions (self preservation, fight or flight) are pretty much what is driving.

I doubt he was doing calculus, mostly using all his fingers to count to one.




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September 09, 2022, 11:49 AM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by 83v45magna:
I like the big guy who ran to the end of the hall when dip-shit took his hot lead injection, then strolls by him as if he's not there right afterwards.


I noticed that as well. FWIW, my read; the moment he saw the gun presented, immediately followed by the gunshot, with a single round that narrowly missed him by, what, maybe a foot or so? He did what most of us would do, and ran in the opposite direction of the shooter/ gun that posed the biggest immediate threat, after a short distance and time, he turns to re-evaluate the situation.

Once he determines the shooter/ gun were no longer located in the doorway he quickly approaches the glass door to see where they went, and he quickly passes the sucker puncher perp and barely sees him laying low on the ground, and likely assumes that he is like everyone else in the vicinity and either ran or dropped to the ground. At the time he passed him I don't think he even realized sucker puncher perp had been shot.

I could well be wrong, but the way the tall guy who ran behaved in so quickly trying to break up and separate the two groups after the sucker punch, he struck me as some sort of authority figure. It looked like sucker puncher perp's buddy was immediately queued up for round 2, and the shooter may well have perceived 2 threats, but only chose to engage the one who hit him.

I'd be willing to bet that if more of the surveillance video was shown, viewers would see the events that led up to a confrontation and the sucker punch. It could be that the shooter had already been threatened or hit prior to this punch and decided to start carrying a gun for the next time it happened.
September 09, 2022, 11:53 AM
Gustofer
Upon further review...

From a anatomic/physiologic perspective, it's interesting that after a shot to the left upper chest, his right arm is gimped. That's nowhere near his opposite brachial plexus. Perhaps the bullet hit a rib and fragmented, taking out his left carotid/aorta.

I'd like to see that autopsy.


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September 09, 2022, 11:59 AM
sigmonkey
^^^

You might be right.

At first, he still has control of his right arm, but it goes away pretty quickly.




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