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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Holy shit As my Dad would say: "It wasn't his time"
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The article is a bit confusing, did he pull his reserve too late for it to fully deploy or did it also malfunction too? It seems a paratrooper under fully inflated parachute would not have impacted the roof that hard. That said I am glad he cheated the reaper and didn’t mangle anyone in the impacted house. | |||
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Was he charged with breaking and entering? Bet the Ring Doorbell didn't catch that one! Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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12,000-15,000 is generally the regular altitude for standard skydiving. He was only about half way to where he needed to be for it to be a HALO. I see his lines going up to the roof. He had something slowing him down. | |||
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A day late, and a dollar short |
What a lucky MoFo!! ____________________________ NRA Life Member, Annual Member GOA, MGO Annual Member | |||
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One of those moments when profanity and gentlemanly decorum might be excused. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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So does this mean that the SAS now considers California to be hostile territory? Glad the soldier is going to be OK! | |||
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Looks like the gear bag that hangs below him punctured the roof before he did. May have saved him. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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On one hand you can say he wasn't without a parachute entirely. He'd be dead. On the other hand, he hit with enough force to crash through the roof, so he must have been falling quickly. What must the chances be that he hits in such an angle as to be parallel to --but between two-- roof rafters and attic joists? That is a miracle of chances, for if he had hit at a different angle, I bet he'd be all broken up. I understand that California framing methods can be a little flimsy, but not so flimsy as to allow him through a couple of rafters unharmed. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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They open low. Thus "HALO." 3,000 ft. Terminal velocity for a human being is ±120 MPH, or 176 FPS. That means about 11 seconds between the time the main canopy is deployed and the minimum altitude at which a reserve chute can be deployed and expect it to slow you to a survivable rate, which is 1,000 ft. In that eleven seconds you have to realize your main chute isn't working, cut it away (which, depending upon the defective chute's shape, may be much easier said than done), and pull the ripcord for the reserve.
Regular skydiving is closer to 10,000 ft. HALO practice from as low at 15,000 ft.
Not necessarily. People have survived hitting the ground w/o a chute. It's rare and, when they do, they're usually pretty messed up, but it happens.
Not to mention apparently narrowly missing that kitchen counter to his left. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Would have to be tiled roof also. Can’t catch a break. | |||
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Hopefully he got a lottery ticket on the way to the hospital, because that was his lucky day! ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Or hitting that granite countertop! He missed that by inches it looks like, that would have killed him too. Nope, God decided it just wasn't this guy's time. | |||
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I don't know why that is such a surprise - reading these pages for the last nineteen years, many of you guys already do just that. | |||
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Too soon old, too late smart |
Hope he makes a speedy recovery. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
One story I remember where the guy survived, attributed his survival to whatever body rolling maneuver they are trained to do. I don't think the maneuver was only for emergency use but standard. In any case, the guy survived but every joint involved snapped or was broken. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Those are pretty standard elevations to be considered a HALO in the military. ___________________________________________ "Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" -Dr. Thaddeus Venture | |||
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The article did not say what chute sustem the soldier was using, however, a Google search shows the T11 military chute with a descent rate of ~18-19 fps and the T11R (reserve) with a descent rate of ~26 fps. That's just an example of the differences in descent rates between the primary and reserve of some military chutes. So even if the reserve was fully deployed, he would have been coming down quite a bit faster that he would under the main canopy. "Cedat Fortuna Peritis" | |||
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The T11 is a static line "round" chute. He's wearing a square steerable canopy. It should be a negligible difference in descent for a reserve ride unless he had a reserve malfunction of course. There are a lot of points that are made in that article that lead to more questions that aren't answered, or that are just full of very incomplete information. ___________________________________________ "Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" -Dr. Thaddeus Venture | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
The only such maneuver of which I'm aware is a Parachute Landing Fall. (N.B.: I am not a skydiving expert.) The idea is you want to have a degree of sideways travel going as you touch down, let your legs take some of the landing force but otherwise fold, and roll onto your shoulder. Average descent speed of an average adult male under a traditional round canopy is ±10 MPH. Average terminal descent velocity of an average human being w/o the benefit of a parachute is ±120 MPH. I don't see a PLF working well at terminal velocity I have read that the best chance of surviving contact with the ground at terminal velocity is on soil, landing as flat as you can to spread the impact out. Counter-intuitively, IIRC, the worst surface to land upon is water. (I no longer recall the physics involved.) I've heard tell water is even less forgiving than concrete--if you can imagine that. I can't back any of that up with cites. It's from imperfect memory from long ago. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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