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As my Dad would say: "It wasn't his time"

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British soldier cheats death after smashing through a ROOF and landing in a kitchen when his parachute failed to open fully after he leapt 15,000ft out of plane in training exercise over California

--The British parachutist spiraled out of control during the exercise in Atascadero, California

--Soldier jumped from 15,000ft but his parachute failed to fully deploy before he used a reserve

--The homeowners were out when he crashed through the tiled roof and landed in a kitchen at 5pm

--Incredibly, he only sustained minor injuries in the fall and has been treated in hospital

By JACK NEWMAN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 04:07 EDT, 12 July 2021 | UPDATED: 07:59 EDT, 12 July 2021

A British soldier has cheated death after crashing into someone's roof and falling into their kitchen when his parachute failed to fully deploy during a training exercise in California.

The parachutist jumped out of a plane from 15,000ft in a High Altitude Low Opening exercise known as Halo, which is used by the SAS and SBS for covert missions in hostile territory.

But the soldier started to spiral out of control when the parachute failed to fully deploy over the skies of Atascadero.

He deployed his reserve parachute but it was too late for him to be able to reach the designated drop zone and he continued his rapid descent towards the ground.

'It's a miracle in my estimation, really. I mean, who lands like that without a parachute and lives?,' neighbor Rose Martin, who discovered the soldier, told KSBY.

Residents in the town about 200 miles northwest of Los Angeles called 911 after seeing him falling before he smashed into the house.

'I was in shock. I'm like, what?,' Martin said. 'So I ran in to make sure he was okay and I checked on him and his eyes were open but I wasn't sure if there were any injuries. I didn't want anyone to move him.

The impact left a huge hole in the tiled roof of the bungalow as the soldier fell through the loft and into the kitchen.

A picture shows the soldier in a sitting position, surrounded by broken tiles and with his parachute still attached. Someone can be seen standing over him as he removes a glove.

The homeowners were out at the time of the incident at 4.55pm on July 6.

The soldier, wearing British special forces uniform, was pictured in the kitchen surrounded by dust and debris in the house, still attached to his harness.






Link and more pics on UK Daily Mail


 
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The article is a bit confusing, did he pull his reserve too late for it to fully deploy or did it also malfunction too? It seems a paratrooper under fully inflated parachute would not have impacted the roof that hard. That said I am glad he cheated the reaper and didn’t mangle anyone in the impacted house.
 
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Was he charged with breaking and entering?

Bet the Ring Doorbell didn't catch that one!




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The parachutist jumped out of a plane from 15,000ft in a High Altitude Low Opening exercise known as Halo


12,000-15,000 is generally the regular altitude for standard skydiving. He was only about half way to where he needed to be for it to be a HALO.

I see his lines going up to the roof. He had something slowing him down.


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The parachutist jumped out of a plane from 15,000ft in a High Altitude Low Opening exercise known as Halo, which is used by the SAS and SBS for covert missions in hostile territory.

So does this mean that the SAS now considers California to be hostile territory? Glad the soldier is going to be OK!
 
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Looks like the gear bag that hangs below him punctured the roof before he did. May have saved him.


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On one hand you can say he wasn't without a parachute entirely. He'd be dead. On the other hand, he hit with enough force to crash through the roof, so he must have been falling quickly.

What must the chances be that he hits in such an angle as to be parallel to --but between two-- roof rafters and attic joists? That is a miracle of chances, for if he had hit at a different angle, I bet he'd be all broken up. I understand that California framing methods can be a little flimsy, but not so flimsy as to allow him through a couple of rafters unharmed.



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Originally posted by divil:
The article is a bit confusing, did he pull his reserve too late for it to fully deploy ...

They open low. Thus "HALO." 3,000 ft. Terminal velocity for a human being is ±120 MPH, or 176 FPS. That means about 11 seconds between the time the main canopy is deployed and the minimum altitude at which a reserve chute can be deployed and expect it to slow you to a survivable rate, which is 1,000 ft.

In that eleven seconds you have to realize your main chute isn't working, cut it away (which, depending upon the defective chute's shape, may be much easier said than done), and pull the ripcord for the reserve.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
12,000-15,000 is generally the regular altitude for standard skydiving.

Regular skydiving is closer to 10,000 ft. HALO practice from as low at 15,000 ft.

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On one hand you can say he wasn't without a parachute entirely. He'd be dead.

Not necessarily. People have survived hitting the ground w/o a chute. It's rare and, when they do, they're usually pretty messed up, but it happens.

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What must the chances be that he hits in such an angle as to be parallel to --but between two-- roof rafters and attic joists? That is a miracle of chances, ...

Not to mention apparently narrowly missing that kitchen counter to his left.



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Would have to be tiled roof also. Can’t catch a break.
 
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Hopefully he got a lottery ticket on the way to the hospital, because that was his lucky day!


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What must the chances be that he hits in such an angle as to be parallel to --but between two-- roof rafters and attic joists? That is a miracle of chances, for if he had hit at a different angle, I bet he'd be all broken up. I understand that California framing methods can be a little flimsy, but not so flimsy as to allow him through a couple of rafters unharmed.


Or hitting that granite countertop! He missed that by inches it looks like, that would have killed him too.

Nope, God decided it just wasn't this guy's time.


 
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Originally posted by Expert308:So does this mean that the SAS now considers California to be hostile territory? Glad the soldier is going to be OK!


I don't know why that is such a surprise - reading these pages for the last nineteen years, many of you guys already do just that. Wink
 
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Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
 
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:


Not necessarily. People have survived hitting the ground w/o a chute. It's rare and, when they do, they're usually pretty messed up, but it happens.



One story I remember where the guy survived, attributed his survival to whatever body rolling maneuver they are trained to do. I don't think the maneuver was only for emergency use but standard. In any case, the guy survived but every joint involved snapped or was broken.



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The parachutist jumped out of a plane from 15,000ft in a High Altitude Low Opening exercise known as Halo


12,000-15,000 is generally the regular altitude for standard skydiving. He was only about half way to where he needed to be for it to be a HALO.

I see his lines going up to the roof. He had something slowing him down.


Those are pretty standard elevations to be considered a HALO in the military.


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The article did not say what chute sustem the soldier was using, however, a Google search shows the T11 military chute with a descent rate of ~18-19 fps and the T11R (reserve) with a descent rate of ~26 fps. That's just an example of the differences in descent rates between the primary and reserve of some military chutes. So even if the reserve was fully deployed, he would have been coming down quite a bit faster that he would under the main canopy.


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The article did not say what chute sustem the soldier was using, however, a Google search shows the T11 military chute with a descent rate of ~18-19 fps and the T11R (reserve) with a descent rate of ~26 fps. That's just an example of the differences in descent rates between the primary and reserve of some military chutes. So even if the reserve was fully deployed, he would have been coming down quite a bit faster that he would under the main canopy.


The T11 is a static line "round" chute. He's wearing a square steerable canopy. It should be a negligible difference in descent for a reserve ride unless he had a reserve malfunction of course.

There are a lot of points that are made in that article that lead to more questions that aren't answered, or that are just full of very incomplete information.


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One story I remember where the guy survived, attributed his survival to whatever body rolling maneuver they are trained to do.

The only such maneuver of which I'm aware is a Parachute Landing Fall. (N.B.: I am not a skydiving expert.) The idea is you want to have a degree of sideways travel going as you touch down, let your legs take some of the landing force but otherwise fold, and roll onto your shoulder.

Average descent speed of an average adult male under a traditional round canopy is ±10 MPH. Average terminal descent velocity of an average human being w/o the benefit of a parachute is ±120 MPH.

I don't see a PLF working well at terminal velocity Wink

I have read that the best chance of surviving contact with the ground at terminal velocity is on soil, landing as flat as you can to spread the impact out. Counter-intuitively, IIRC, the worst surface to land upon is water. (I no longer recall the physics involved.) I've heard tell water is even less forgiving than concrete--if you can imagine that.

I can't back any of that up with cites. It's from imperfect memory from long ago.



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