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I need to buy 2 or 3 more combination wrenches in Metric sizes. I currently have 10mm thru 19mm but have needed larger from time to time, being forced to use a large adjustable wrench or other means, but as you know, sometimes only a combination wrench will really cut it.

So for our DIYers, Motorheads, and Professional Mechanics, if I were to buy two or three larger combination wrenches above 19mm, should I go in succession, like 20mm, 21mm, and 22mm, or should I skip one or two of those sizes. Unfortunately I don't know what sizes I actually needed since I got by with other means, but I know that won't always work out in the future, and I generally like to have the right tool for the job if it's something I'm gonna wish I had in the middle of a big project (big for me). Rounding a large nut or busting and hand is not my preferred way of wrenching, particularly since I don't have genetically strong hands and forearms.

FWIW I don't work on HD Trucks or any HD machines of any type, just light duty trucks and cars, but I've run out of space more times than I can count in both the larger SAE and Metric sizes. My current largest combination in SAE is 1 in and 19mm in metric.

Same question but for line type wrenches, as I've run out of larger sizes for those too.

What do you guys recommend ? I normally don't skip any sizes, BUT, the larger wrenches are expensive, since I usually buy professional grade brands for wrenches, sockets, and ratchets, so I'm making some exceptions for these larger sizes, if you guys think this makes sense. Or not.

Any advice much appreciated.




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Larger wrenches are expensive, I would just get the ones you would need.
My most often used larger metric wrenches and sockets are 21,22,24,30 and 32 mm

Most line wrench sets are from 8mm to 19mm and 5/16" to 3/4", I have sets of wrenches and crowfeet up to 22mm and 7/8" I have sets from NAPA that have held up to hard use.
 
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My most often used larger metric wrenches and sockets are 21,22,24,30 and 32 mm.


These plus I use 25mm and 27mm on many of the light trucks I work on.
 
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I usually only use Wrenches if I can't get a Socket on it, but there are exceptions. I have NO Metric Wrenches larger than 19mm. I will also only buy 12 pt. Sockets if a 6 pt. is NOT available in that size!

I have purchased large(r) Metric Sockets as needed and currently have the following sizes beyond the 19mm supplied in a typical set:

21,22,24 & 27mm


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Really depends on what you're working on. I keep extras of JIS sizes. 10, 12, 14, 17, 19.

I do have complete wrenches with no skips up to 32mm but that really doesn't sound necessary for your needs. Also be aware that several SAE sizes can be used on metric fasteners since they are close enough.

19mm and 3/4
22mm and 7/8
24mm and 15/16
27mm and 1-1/16
30mm and 1-3/16
32mm and 1-1/4
 
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Everyone's needs are different (both in women and wrenches.) I have way more sizes than I need. Both in sockets and flat wrenches, combination and different ends. All that came about over years of accumulation. I have sons, so I learned to lock my better tools up in my jeeps. It didn't take me long to not just look in my tool box, but also in theirs. Tools seemed to just grow legs. Sons don't really steal them, they just borrow and forget to return them.

All that for background. I live in a region rich in racing. Not pro's, but just shade tree types. I wouldn't suggest just heading out to the Sears store and buying up what you need. You're better off going to flea markets and yard sales. They used to publish newspapers. Sorry for showing my age. A buddy stopped at one where the ex-wife was selling off her ex's tools. The court had given him 6 full months to clear his shit out. He failed. All his mechanic's tools were on tables for $1 each. Smile

Big flea markets are places to go and find stuff. So are saturday mornings to cruise working class neighborhoods (were most of us live). Bring cash, they don't accept plastic.

The point being that the guarantee is the same on a 50 year old tool and one bought and broken yesterday. The only problem being they don't always line up on a tool rail as nice. Got good eyes? Watch the side of the road. Fool mechanics leave tools under the hood then take a test drive. Smile Read Craigslist. When the price seems low enough, buy all you can afford. I have no idea why I've got 3/4 an 1" drive sockets and ratchets, but they were cheap. Damn fool that I am, I even have some 2" + sockets. Some even blue point and such. I did give away my 3" flat wrenches the last time we moved.


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It depends somewhat on what you will be working on. The Car Care Nut is a master Toyota Tech and gives great advice on good starting tools, especially for a Toyota or Lexus owner.

 
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Some of this depends on what you are working on, but above 19mm the sizes I use some of the time is 21 mm, 24 mm, 27 mm, 30 mm 22 mm in that order. I've never had a 20mm. Most of the time if its a 25mm I use a SAE 1"

If I needed a few of those sizes I would buy something like the home depot XL MM Combination Wrench Set (5-Piece) Husky set that has the larger common sizes 21 mm, 22 mm, 24 mm, 27 mm, 30 mm for $59.97. I've found the Husky tools to be fairly tough tools. I'm one of those guys that will take a 3 or 4 pound hammer to a wrench if need be.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hu...W5PCMMN-05/314256127
 
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For the bigger stuff I just buy ‘as needed’, unless I come across a great deal. I’m in the mid category as far as wrenching on things.

I was just at a Fleet Farm yesterday, looking around as I waited for my gun check to clear(CZ 75D Compact PCR). I saw the clearance isle had a fair amount of tools. I normally like clearance prices in the 75+% off range, these were a little short of that.

All I added was another 3/8” extension & some light bulbs.
 
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For the bigger stuff I just buy ‘as needed’, unless I come across a great deal. I’m in the mid category as far as wrenching on things.

I was just at a Fleet Farm yesterday, looking around as I waited for my gun check to clear(CZ 75D Compact PCR). I saw the clearance isle had a fair amount of tools. I normally like clearance prices in the 75+% off range, these were a little short of that.

All I added was another 3/8” extension & some light bulbs.

Regarding your CZ 75D Compact PCR, you're gonna love it. It's a fantastic gun.




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So, so far it's sounding like 20mm and 23mm are out of the running as early favorites. And 21mm and 22mm are the better choices. If correct you guys are saving me real money.




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I needed a 22 or 23 for something & this was almost cheaper than buying singles:
Sunex

It didn't break the 1 time I've used it....
I think the only times the roll has been out of my box is the 1st use, cleaning the box out when potato bugs move in & a couple of times using the bigger wrenches as cheater bars. <$25 for 5pcs for something I'll use almost never is OK. $15per isn't.
 
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Dare I say this is a great time for a visit to Harbor Freight. For infrequent use they may be a viable option


 
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Everyone's needs are different (both in women and wrenches.) I have way more sizes than I need . . . but they were cheap. Damn fool that I am
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What are you working on? Japanese and Korean vehicles use 22 and 24 a lot, domestic 21, 24 and sometimes 27 and 30. 20 is rarely encountered; I have only used it (to my recollection) on older GM truck fuel filters and A/C lines. I have never needed a 23. I only have one socket in this size, that only because it happened to come in the set.
 
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Everyone's needs are different (both in women and wrenches.) I have way more sizes than I need . . . but they were cheap. Damn fool that I am
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Is rburg referring to women or wrenches above??
 
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Once you get over 1", stuff is so large that it really doesn't matter if you use SAE or Metric on a bolt, in 12pt. If you use your 1" wrench when you need a 25mm or your 1 1/16 when you need a 26mm, it really doesn't matter. Sort through your wrenches, both MM and SAE, and just fill in a few blanks between the gaps. In order to round off a large bolt, you'd have to be grossly oversized.

Unless you have OCD and need to see them all lined up in the toolbox. Smile



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Sounds like we work on similar sizes.
I've been using tools like this for decades and don't own any metric over 19mm. On the rare occasion I need a larger metric wrench one of the SAE sizes is close enough. Many of the SAE sizes are so similar to metric that they are well within the tolerance needed.


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Virtually identical in dimensions:

22mm and 7/8"
24mm and 15/16"
32mm and 1-1/4"

1-1/16" will fit loosely on a 27mm. I still prefer the 27 when breaking an EGR tube fitting loose (they are almost always rusted).
 
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What are you working on? Japanese and Korean vehicles use 22 and 24 a lot, domestic 21, 24 and sometimes 27 and 30. 20 is rarely encountered; I have only used it (to my recollection) on older GM truck fuel filters and A/C lines. I have never needed a 23. I only have one socket in this size, that only because it happened to come in the set.

all light duty: Ford, Chevy, Nissan, Toyota




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