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Caribou gorn |
Henry Aaron already had 510 homeruns before they lowered the mound.This message has been edited. Last edited by: YellowJacket, I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. | |||
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Maybe his hand-eye coordination would have allowed him to hit the ball as many times as he did, but the extra strength, speed, and recovery time all helped him attain the number of homers that might have been base hits or catches at the fence. He is still the same old piece of shit IMO. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
@ Yellow Jacket Precisely. Pitching was keeping runs down so MLB wanted more runs leading to the lowered mound. Aaron played for 22 years. Did the lowered mound extend his career? I think so because you don't modernly see hitters in the league for that long but Aaron definitely had natural talent. But his numbers were awfully good after they changed the mound in the later part of his career. He hit 44 HRs the year of the change, equalling a number when he was in the true prime of his career. | |||
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Big Stack |
I can't get myself worked up about PED in professional athletics. Pro sports is a show. On PEDs they can put on a better show. I have to question why they're against the rules in the first place. | |||
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My way of saying who knows how much PED's helped? IIRC the McGwire/Sosa battles were during one of those "lively ball" eras in MLB. But MM played at old Busch Stadium, not a hitter friendly park although the fences had been moved in to facilitate the HR's-win-ball-games metric. As a disclaimer and a non-Cards fan in enemy territory, every HR MM hit pained me. I do know he was one hell of an athlete and, if anyone could hit that many HR's at that time, MM is your guy. When the PED info came out at the time, I gladly threw it in the faces of his defenders. They all KNEW it was a non-factor. I thought otherwise and still do. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Not always. I would much prefer a low scoring MLB game with base running, great fielding etc, rather than just homerun knocks all day long. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Or be able to play for the duration of the season / career. PEDs give the athlete an edge over the non-user. Period. Do they grant 'magical ability'? Of course not. The PED users rationalization is laughable. They also allow the user to 'steal' the playing time of the other non-using player. So there is an insidious theft component as well. Also it creates a 'false benchmark' of what is considered a peak for a sport. So there is a lie there. Lastly - it encourages young athletes to do 'whatever it takes' to make it pro. That's bad for young athletes who want to play clean. ------------------------------------------ Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
So are you saying that the only 4 players using were Giambi, Sosa, Big Mac and Bonds? Of course not but they got the headlines in the home run derby. Other players did too thus the game is compromised to the point that you need to put asteriks, if at all, on years for the entire league. Pitchers, catchers, and everyone else took them to extend careers or get great contracts. After the strike years MLB wanted fans to come back and the owners, pkayets, union and the league all happily took the steroids. The entire league did itself in and was never going to complain about PEDs. Big Mac and Bonds ruined nothing about the game. | |||
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McGwire is full of shit. If he could have hit 70 without being juiced why didn't he? He didn't come close. His career arc changed as he found the right formula. The 'roid era is part of the history of the game as much as segregation and the guys in the 60s and 70s who were hopped up on greenies. If baseball actually cared they would have done something when the 'roid rumblings started in the late 80s with Canseco and, wait for it, McGwire. Bulked up batters put butts in seats and helped bring fans back after the strike. Money always wins. Baseball cared only when congress threatened the $$$. | |||
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Ammoholic |
I was an A's fan growing up before we had a team in DC. Bash brothers and Ricky Henderson were my favorite players. It saddens me to think what shitheads the bash brothers became. I sold Mark McGwires rookie and Olympic cards the season before he broke the record to get money for college. I kicked myself for it the following year, now I am happy I got rid of it. Fuck him. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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