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I have a couple smallish stucco repairs that need to be done at the house and have never done stucco work before but would like to learn. I've gotten two quotes from 'pros' and both were IMO ridiculous. At any rate, here are a couple pics of the two spots under a door on our patio that need attention. Anybody here done stucco work and can provide some suggestions, directions, education on how I should approach this repair?    ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | ||
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My first question is what caused the stucco damage, so that it does not recurr. | |||
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You will need: three five gallon buckets a sponge some sand assorted trowels some rips of 2x4 to aide in creating a straight flat plane, particularly on the underside concrete bonding adhesive non-shrink grout Blue tape for the sill The repairs already look pretty clean. Paint the adhesive all in there. Mix the grout, using the adhesive instead of water overstuff, then work it in by pressing and smoothing. Use 2x4 rips, shimmed up tight to the bottom to control it that way. Get the shape worked out, and let it begin to set before trying to work the texture. Not sure how expensive the quotes were, but those guys typically have to deal with people who expect stucco to match exactly, which is all but impossible. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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I have no idea, and neither did either of the two 'pros' who offered me quotes to fix it. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Water, expansion and contraction of dissimilar materials, and the transferred motion of being near a walkway/door. It's also an exposed lip, so not very strong. Highly likely to crack again, almost no matter what. Probably also the reason for high quotes, that means no. If it cracks again, on my house I'd break the whole thing out and replace it with Ipe. The reason I suggested non-shrink grout instead of traditional stucco repair is the location. If you do want to go with stucco, I'd still use the bonding adhesive instead of water. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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I was hoping you'd see this and comment. Thank you. A couple questions though. 1 - What is the "little sand" used for? you didn't really address that. 2 - Non-shrink grout"? Is that sanded tile grout? Not portland cement? 3 - When mixing the grout with adhesive, are the liquid requirements the same or should it be mixed stiffer? I'm not too concerned over how closely these patches match. I'll obviously do my best to make them work, but given their small size and location, unless I totally screw them up, the patches shouldn't be too obvious. As to estimates, the one I got on Thursday was for $1,000. I think he wasn't terribly interested in such a minor repair and opted to quote it the way he did to make it worth his while. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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The sand is just for topcoat/texture. You may not need it, the sponge is for cleanup and texturing. This isn't tile grout. Grout in masonry is used for joints, you'll find it with the concrete products. Non shrink grout is for high strength connections, but useful here because of the non-shrinking part. When you use the bonding adhesive, treat it like water, and mix for a useable consistency, you'll get a feel for this yourself, but you can go off the instructions on the bag to start. You want it wet but firm. Sometimes you want a "dry" mix, not here. To get a feel for it, mix some up before you're ready to do the actual work to get a feel for the set time and ratio of liquid to get something you can shape. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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I don't know if I'd go with stucco in that area. Sakrete makes a masonry concrete repair mix/putty in a 1 gallon-ish sized bucket. I think the concrete would be a better choice if you're very careful to smooth it with a putty knife when you put it in. I'd also hit all of the surrounding stuff light to medium hits with a hammer to make sure it's all solid and not about to fall off before you repair it. Whatever the door is mounted on, is compromised and shifting and flexing when someone steps on the threshold and that is what is chipping the stucco out, is my guess. Probably a somewhat water logged/wet 1x4" would be my guess. | |||
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Thanks Arc. I think I can now attempt this repair with a high hope of success (and keep about $900 in my pocket in the process).  ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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