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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

I have a number of friends who are internists and they frequently speak about how patients diagnose themselves using Google and how far off they are.

While I was hospitalized for other things, I had chest pains. Heart problems were quickly ruled out, but all those educated doctors could not figure out the cause of the chest pains.

I did my homework and self-diagnosed correctly as costochondritis.

My first red flag about healthcare and doctors was the inconsistency of the Hippocratic oath and contraceptive abortion. Next came the advocacy for Obamacare (so called). Then came the lack of resistance to the nonsensical and tyrannical response to covid. I’m rational enough to know it’s not a doctor’s fault that his industry is driven the direction it has been. Mrs DF isn’t morally compromised in her capacity. So I’m willing to trust individual doctors until one shows me what I oppose. Absent that, they have my respect.

Sorry, and surprised, to hear that so many members have poor healthcare systems.

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While I was hospitalized for other things, I had chest pains. Heart problems were quickly ruled out, but all those educated doctors could not figure out the cause of the chest pains.

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I would consider getting another physician.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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While I was hospitalized for other things, I had chest pains. Heart problems were quickly ruled out, but all those educated doctors could not figure out the cause of the chest pains.

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I would consider getting another physician.

When you are hospitalized, due to being admitted through the ER, do you have the option of saying "I don't like you. Send a different doctor" ??

The doctors I refer to, were all hospital staff. I did not choose them. I did not even meet some of them, like the ones who evaluated X-Rays, sonograms, etc.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

I have a number of friends who are internists and they frequently speak about how patients diagnose themselves using Google and how far off they are.

While I was hospitalized for other things, I had chest pains. Heart problems were quickly ruled out, but all those educated doctors could not figure out the cause of the chest pains.

I did my homework and self-diagnosed correctly as costochondritis.

With the need to get as many people through per hour to make the money they want, there is no time for research. If they cannot diagnose off the top of their head, you are out of luck. One post on this thread mentioned 15 minutes per patient, I think that is being generous. I have seen many that want to be in and out in 5 minutes and let their nurses do all the work. I always fire those doctors and find other ones.

After covid I met quite a few medical professionals that were against everything that happened, some that lost their jobs over it. There are some out there that think like you and I but have to fight the system. I even met one nurse who got out of nursing over what was going on.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

The doctors I refer to, were all hospital staff. I did not choose them. I did not even meet some of them, like the ones who evaluated X-Rays, sonograms, etc.

We've needed the local ER several times in the past 5 years, and the care was very good. Pretty basic stuff (concussion, debris in eye, broken ribs from a bicycle wreck). However, there was no followup with those docs or nurses.

Without seeing how each patient progresses with recovery, the providers have no personal experience to build their own knowledge base. They are left with reading journals and following the corporate protocols.

The art of medicine is dying.

I'm not trying to blow my own horn, but I've met a lot of doctors, and I can only think of 4 or 5 who I'd trust. I love to tell people I do my own research; starting with medical journals.

If you really know how to do your own research on the internet you can be just as informed as anyone else on any topic at all.

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Originally posted by c1steve:
Low level light therapy/cold laser has helped many persons with TBI. Also stay away from TV, movies, and the computer as much as possible.

Thanks for that. I've done some cold laser therapy in the past and it did in fact help but I was paying out of pocket and it got expensive. The VA will cover nothing more than a few acupuncture visits per year, which is disappointing since TBI is one of the most common issues facing the VA.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Perhaps a few. Read your assertion again and realize how insulting it is. Critical thinking goes well beyond Google. Practicing medicine is an art. I have a number of friends who are internists and they frequently speak about how patients diagnose themselves using Google and how far off they are.

I am being completely honest here. Watch it every time I go to the VA and even at the University of Virginia medical center when I was taking my grandmother there for her heart condition. The Doc simply plugs in symptoms and it generates a flowchart that directs the next step in care. Sure, there are some docs that are a wealth of knowledge, but those are a rarity today. Most are chasing the $ and need turnover to make the most they can. For a great majority of people in this country, finding and being able to afford such a doctor is not easy.

My physician does not use this procedure and I would not see a physician who used this approach. Years of medical training as well as experience are the important things.