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I did a search and looked in the CCW and Gun Control forums. I hope it's not jibjab


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A bill to allow Georgians to carry handguns without obtaining a license or permit has received initial approval from the Senate.

Senate Bill 319 – the Georgia Constitutional Carry Act of 2021 – cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee along party lines. Twenty-two states already give residents the liberty.

Sen. Jason Anavitarte, R-Dallas, who presented the bill Tuesday to the committee, said states that have removed the restriction experienced a drop in crime. Critics fear it would put guns in the wrong hands.

Georgians can purchase a firearm without a license, but a license is required to carry a weapon openly in Georgia. When concealed, a license is not required to carry a handgun in a person's home, vehicle, business, while fishing or hunting or unloaded in a case. However, courthouses, schools and other "school safety zones" are not included. The bill would not lift restrictions on long guns.

Under the measure, Georgians who want a firearm permit still can apply for one.

The committee hearing drew advocates for and against the bill. While proponents said the measure would increase freedom and safety, opponents said it would put more lives at risk.

Domestic violence advocates said making firearms more accessible will increase domestic violence fatalities. Other critics said lawmakers should consider other ways to reduce violence and increase safety, such as increasing funding for education and other resources.

The bill only applies to "lawful weapons carriers," which Anavitarte said rules out people with criminal records, including those convicted of domestic violence, from getting more access to guns. He said the current permit requirement does not deter criminals from carrying guns.

"They will do it regardless," Anavitarte said. "Permitless carry gives criminals a reason to fear that any potential victim could be armed and thus desensitizes criminals from conduct."

Committee member Elena Parent, D-Atlanta, who is an attorney, said criminal history is the No. 1 reason for permit denials in Georgia. She said 5,000 permits were denied last year. Anavitarte argued potential gun buyers still are subject to background checks from gun retailers.

Parent and other critics of the bill also pointed to random shootings or stray-bullet killings in Georgia.

Proponents of the bill argued there has been a spike in requests for firearms permit, showing Georgians "don't feel safe."

The bill must be approved in the full Senate and House before it is sent to Gov. Brian Kemp. Kemp said he intends to sign the measure he believes will give Georgians "the ability to protect themselves and their families."





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Committee member Elena Parent, D-Atlanta, who is an attorney, said criminal history is the No. 1 reason for permit denials in Georgia. She said 5,000 permits were denied last year.
"D" for Democrat; "D" for disingenuous; "D" for dumbass.

Those 5000 denials mean that those people are not legally allowed to carry anyway, which means if they were caught carrying a firearm under constitutional carry, they would be in as much trouble as they would be if the state didn't have constitutional carry, and they wouldn't pass a background check to purchase a firearm, either. Don't try to pass off your argument off as being logical. Everyone knows that Democrats and leftists don't want citizens to bear arms, because it frightens the Hell out of the left, and it should frighten these commie assholes.


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The anti crowd is using the usual bogus arguments, knowing how many are ignorant of the facts and already against this, to create hysteria.
Another fundraising opportunity isn't to be wasted either.
This looks very likely to happen this year.


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Which colostomy bag politician will be the first to roll out the tired and false, "this will cause rivers of blood in our streets?"

Good for Georgia. We've had it since September and of course none of the bogus arguments have come true. Ours has more location restrictions than the LTC so I'm sticking with LTC. Also, LTC comes with reciprocity for most of the free states.



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Fingers crossed for you guys.
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Kemp said he intends to sign the measure he believes will give Georgians "the ability to protect themselves and their families."

You know, it was kinda funny down here in Texas. We did have to accept that there would be restrictions that we could try to go back and take off later, but the mere possibility of getting permitless carry was a sea change.

What stirred the masses up? Everybody's pissed about the 2020 election steal and not taking "no" for an answer. Our governor needed to be hip-checked into doing the right thing but the heads of our state Senate and House found themselves subjected to a series of "come to Jesus" moments and went from absolutely opposing it to not being able to get it passed fast enough.

From Kemp's response, I smell a degree of fear that I can only describe as "healthy". Here's hoping you guys get the option of permitless carry AND manage to get a decent Rep candidate in the next race for the governor's seat.
 
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Committee member Elena Parent, D-Atlanta, who is an attorney, said criminal history is the No. 1 reason for permit denials in Georgia. She said 5,000 permits were denied last year.
"D" for Democrat; "D" for disingenuous; "D" for dumbass.

Those 5000 denials mean that those people are not legally allowed to carry anyway, which means if they were caught carrying a firearm under constitutional carry, they would be in as much trouble as they would be if the state didn't have constitutional carry, and they wouldn't pass a background check to purchase a firearm, either. Don't try to pass off your argument off as being logical. Everyone knows that Democrats and leftists don't want citizens to bear arms, because it frightens the Hell out of the left, and it should frighten these commie assholes.


...and they are likely carrying concealed anyway....

I'm pulling for you Georgians. I'll always have a soft spot for Georgia. Some of my best years were spent there.



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Kemp knows he had better sign it if he wants any chance in winning re-election this fall.


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Congrats.




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Kemp knows he had better sign it if he wants any chance in winning re-election this fall.
If this guy has a difficult time getting re-elected with Stacey Abrams being his opponent, then he truly isn't much of a politician.

It's way past time for Florida to get on the Constitutional Carry train.


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^^^There’s still a lot of anger directed at Kemp over the 2020 election. If he doesn’t sign it, it would be political suicide for him.


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