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Just saw a post on FB last night that was pretty interesting and kind of fascinating.

Did you know that the Penny was NEVER officially marked as a "Penny" or named that in its 232 year life?

Penny is an old British term that was carried over but it was always officially a "Cent"

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“Penny” is an informal, historical name carried over from English usage; it became the common spoken word for the U.S. one-cent coin even though the United States has never minted a coin literally called a “penny.”

Key points:

Etymology and English origin
“Penny” derives from Old English peniġ, used for small-value copper coins in England for centuries. That name persisted in everyday language for small-denomination coins.
English-speaking colonists brought that vocabulary to North America; they continued to call small copper coins “pennies” regardless of the official name.

U.S. official nomenclature:

The U.S. Constitution gives Congress power “to coin Money” and regulate value, but early U.S. legislation and the Mint established the unit as the “cent” (one‑hundredth of a dollar).
Official documents, coin statutes, and Mint publications call the coin a “one cent piece” (or “cent”). The coin’s inscriptions (e.g., UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE CENT) reflect that formal name.

Popular usage vs. legal/technical terms:

Common speech often favors short, familiar words. “Penny” is easier and historically entrenched, so it became the colloquial label for the U.S. cent.

Similar patterns exist elsewhere: Canadians and Australians also call their one-cent coins “pennies” even after changing designs or discontinuing the coin.


Cultural reinforcement:

Newspapers, literature, advertising, and everyday conversation reinforced “penny.” Iconic phrases (penny candy, penny for your thoughts) and the depiction of Abraham Lincoln on the U.S. cent (the “Lincoln penny”) made the term sticky.

Popular numismatic writing and hobbyists use both terms; collectors will say “cent” in formal contexts and “penny” informally.


The U.S. never legally issued a coin named “penny,” but the English-language habit of calling small copper coins “pennies” transferred to the U.S. cent and stuck in everyday usage. Official terminology remains “cent,” while “penny” is a customary, colloquial synonym.


 
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I wish the final mint pennies were actually copper.
A nice touch that would’ve been.



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Damn, and I just ordered a new pair of Penny Loafers...




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Store gonna change its name to J.C. Nickel.



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Damn, and I just ordered a new pair of Penny Loafers...




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Cashiers now having to round change up or down to the nearest nickel (already seeing signage to that effect) are going to be confused. Big Grin I wouldn't be surprised if this takes changes in register programming to accommodate them, or to balance the books at the end of a shift.





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Local stores are already claiming that they will bring rounding everything up to the next nickle.


Fancy that.


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I don’t think the cost to make it is relevant. They stay in circulation for 50 years. Now it is relevant to make sure the melted value doesn’t exceed the face value- hence the zinc alloys.
 
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I ordered at a fast food place today and was chatting with the person about my change. They said when their supply of pennies is gone the menu is going to be adjusted to make it all come out to nickles. I thought that's quick...


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So the first set of 232 final minted Pennies sold at auction for $200,000.

The final minted penny sold for $800,000. I knew these would go for crazy amounts.

I will just hold onto a few normal Pennies.




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Coincidentally, the last bit of change my wife got these last few days included a fairly nice condition, 1907 Indian head penny. Amazing to us that it would still be freely circulating, given that it was a noticeable variation from the current pennies.


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Coincidentally, the last bit of change my wife got these last few days included a fairly nice condition, 1907 Indian head penny. Amazing to us that it would still be freely circulating, given that it was a noticeable variation from the current pennies.


Yeah I would hold onto that.




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When I was a kid back in the 1950's, classic coins were common. I always had an Indian Head penny, Liberty Head dime, or a silver dollar in my pocket. Haven't seen any circulating in decades, now.

I have a box in my junk drawer that I threw old coins in. There are a bunch of wheat-back pennies in it, one from 1934, along with a Liberty Head dime from 1944, all picked up in change years ago.


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Somebody's coin collection got raided for that Indian Head.


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Speaking of pennies, do any of you separate the 1983 and earlier cents from your piles of pennies? As I recall, it was sometime mid-1983 when they went to inner zinc pennies.




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I guess there will be no more asking for a penny for one's thoughts.






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I just checked,
According to Goog al,

A nickel cost a dollar to mint.

Wondering if paper nickles would be cheaper

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As of the 2024 fiscal year, it costs approximately 13.8 cents ($0.1378) to produce and distribute a single US nickel, despite it only having a face value of 5 cents. The cost to produce nickels has remained above their face value for 19 consecutive years, with expenses rising due to increased raw material costs.

Key facts about nickel production:

Production Cost: 13.78 cents ($0.1378) per nickel.

Loss per Coin: The U.S. Mint loses nearly 9 cents on every nickel produced.

Total Cost: In 2024, producing 112.8 million nickels cost taxpayers roughly $17.7 million.

Composition: Nickels are made of 75% copper and 25% nickel.

Rising Costs: The cost rose from 10.41 cents in 2023 to 13.78 cents in 2024, a significant jump driven by higher material prices.

While the penny is often cited as the most expensive coin to produce, the nickel actually represents a higher total loss per unit and in total annual production costs.

A wooden nickel is a non-currency, wooden token often used as a promotional item, souvenir, or coupon, frequently measuring 1.5 inches in diameter. Popularized in the 1930s, they were often issued by merchants, banks, or during local celebrations, sometimes redeemable for goods. The phrase "don't take any wooden nickels" serves as a warning against being swindled or tricked.

Key details about wooden nickels:

Purpose: They are used as souvenirs, promotional tools, or tokens in incentive programs.

Origin: Often issued during local celebrations (like town centennials) or during times of economic distress, such as the Great Depression.
Customization: They can be customized with logos or text, often produced in bulk from materials like hardwood maple.

Value: They have no intrinsic currency value and are generally worth less than their stated "nickel" value.



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I never knew that there was a steel penny. In 1943 Pennies were made of steel to save copper for World War II. Since the penny has been discontinued, I decided to make sure I have some of every type of penny. I ordered a roll of steel Pennie’s to have some. I am not a true coin collector, but I do like to collect them. I also got a 1909 penny where the designer snuck his initials on the coin.




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^^^^^^

The 1944 Pennies were minted from recycled shell casings, as it was becoming clear that the Allies were eventually going to win and metal shortages were lessening.


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