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| No double standards |
I think an adage might fit here. You can take the people out of the slum, but they will build a new slum around themselves. You must first take the slum out of the people, and they will take themselves out of the slum. You can throw $Billions at the problem, but until the people adopt higher principles, the money won't solve the problem "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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All the while taking advantage of generous welfare programs of the host countries whose ideals and cultures they object to!  P229 | |||
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| No double standards |
Hope you don't mind my slight adjustment. I note you live in California . . . . (need I say more?) "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Honky Lips |
It's already too late, unless people are willing to fight and die for western civilization, it's toast. The apex of humanity has been the past 500 years, we're just on the downward side of this thing. It will get worse and worse until it falls completely off the cliff. I hate to be all doom and gloom about it but barbarism has won. The base instincts of mankind have beaten out the better angels of our nature. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Congratulations, Bill. You're only 4 years behind the curve. Great job, you freakin' genius. You get on board the Common Sense Train after it's too late. Fucking brilliant, Einstein, just brilliant. | |||
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| No double standards |
I guess I see a different picture. Things will get uglier, but if we stick to our principles, we will win. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| No double standards |
Edited to add from an article by Victor Davis Hansen http://www.washingtontimes.com...a-ever-thrive-again/
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
The demographic concerns shown in the video are disturbing. But why does the native European population not sustain itself? I would submit it is the misery of socialism. ... and that is reversible as Scoutmaster says, if we stick to our principles "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Honky Lips |
and we got to where we are now by discarding our principles? | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
They just can't bring themselves to say it. The Donald was right on this one. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Yep. That's the siren song of socialism. It's the discarding of the principles of Western civilization. The Siren Song Of Socialism http://thehayride.com/2016/07/...n-song-of-socialism/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Honky Lips |
Tell me then, how are the noble principles of western civilization going to overcome a birth rate 8 times higher? You're asking the average western couple to have 8 times more children. Do you see that realistically happening? | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
No. I don't. And we don't need 8 times more children. We need 2.1 vs. the current 1.8 or whatever. And.... we have to keep the 3rd world shitheads from invading our country. Trump is right. As for Europe, I would agree: it's probably too late. Unless they quickly act as Poland has. And they won't. But the Muslims haven't taken America yet. We don't have to match the birthrate of the shitheads we just have to keep them in their own countries where they will kill each other off. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Honky Lips |
let's play that game then. we've got a group of children 2.1 westerns vs 8.1 muslims those children then pair off and have the number of children as prescribed. now we've got 2.2 western children and 32.4 muslim children. lets move to the next generation 2 more western kids and 129 muslim children how about the generation after that? 2 western kids and 518 muslims, the western kids are now half a percent of the total population. we're not only fighting an idea here, we're fighting mathematics. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Yes. True. And the Muslims are not compatible with a political and social philosophy centered on natural, or God-given, INDIVIDUAL rights. America’s Long March toward a Secular Socialist Democracy http://www.americanthinker.com...alist_democracy.html They will, at some point, have to be defeated for the principles of Western civilization to survive. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| No double standards |
A couple of thoughts. First, leftist/socialist principles are unstable; in time socialist societies will either self destruct or will destroy each other. Second, if we abandon our principles, we become our own enemy. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Seems simple to me. The 8 stages of civilization at work, and proven several times over. 1.From bondage to spiritual growth 2.From spiritual growth to great courage 3.From courage to liberty 4.From liberty to abundance 5.From abundance to complacency 6.From complacency to apathy 7.From apathy to dependence 8.From dependence back to bondage One can decide at which stage the modern world is today, but seems to me to be somewhere between 7 & 8. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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The word is "alluding", not "eluding". flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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 "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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