Kamala has volunteered to go over the Russian side of the Ukraine border and give 100k blowies to defuse the situation

What Putin really wants is a pro-Russian government in Ukraine and an agreement from NATO that Ukraine will never be a member. He wants Ukraine to operate like Belarus.

If he can achieve that through intimidation and threats he will take it.

If he cannot achieve it by applying pressure, he will attempt to achieve what he can by military action.

Ukraine is that important to Russia. Most of the country WAS Russia for a very long time. That last thing Russia wants is NATO on their border.

Russia can probably take any Ukranian city they want to. What I don't think they can do is occupy the entire country.

Ukraine is too big. The modern Russian army is too small for that. The Ukranians in the West are decidedly anti-Russian and have a long history of partisan warfare. They were the Cossacks of times past.

So Militarily, I'm not sure what Russian can do to achieve it's strategic aims.

The Ukrainian military is short on air-defense. Perhaps the Russians use their advantages in airpower, artillery and long-range rockets to heavily attrit the Ukranian military in conjunction with cyber attacks to destabilize the Ukranian government.

In summary, I do not know what is going to happen but I think something will.

Either we will see the West agreeing to Russian demands or there will be military action.

I'm thinking Afghanistan 2.0 for Russia if they invade more than the border region that is pro Russia.

Saw something last evening about Stingers being donated and England is sending some kind of military aid.

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Saw something last evening about Stingers being donated and England is sending some kind of military aid.

Yes. Lots of man portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles are being donated by NATO countries including Britain.

I think the leftist media really want this war to kick off as well...

Was at the gym tonight and they always have CBS on and during CBS news I happen to glance at the TV and in giant letters across the screen was something like "Russian soldiers poised to attack" or some insanely stupid crap like that

Ever since the movie Wag the Dog was released, you can never look at government and media reports about war the same ways.

Some troops moving away from border today. Clay & Buck we’re talking this could all be just a giant head fake, invasion talk.

I’m not sure what Putin gains. The Dems enjoy the distraction.

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Some troops moving away from border today. Clay & Buck we’re talking this could all be just a giant head fake, invasion talk.

I’m not sure what Putin gains. The Dems enjoy the distraction.

Of course it is.

Putin is playing with our addled dementia patient of a President as a cat would play with a half-dead mouse

Ukraine invasion underway and Putin puts out ominous warning.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-n...-us-allies-sanctions

Buckle up!

The MSM is absolutely giddy.

I just don't care. We have far more pressing issues to deal with in this country.

No exaggeration- I simply do not care in the least. Higher gas prices? ooooohhhhhh

And just like that President Potato becomes a ‘war president’ as the media will beat the drum of ‘we must all unite’, blah blah blah…

It's not going to help him one damn bit. President Two Scoops will simply look even more foolish when he starts his "I'm tough" nonsense, where he acts as if he's angry. He can't even find the end of half the sentences he tries to speak.

And the war is not in the grocery store, where Americans are getting royally screwed. People who are trying to feed their kids don't give a fuck about a European war.

Potatus handlers haven’t even woke him, he’s calling G7 leaders tomorrow, way to be on top.

People care most about what effects them on a daily basis. Soaring inflation, high gas prices, scarcity of many items or unknown backorder times for items because of supply chain issues and people not going back to work, still far too much COVID crap to deal with, open borders, high crime rates, declining market, etc. There is zero public support for any foreign conflict right now. If all the "experts" in DC think otherwise, they are dumber than Sleepy Joe. After the Afghanistan fiasco, this Russia issue will just prove to more people how utterly incompetent this administration is with every policy, foreign and domestic.

What the market's doing won't do Creepy Uncle Joe any favors, either.

I'd already decided to cut back on discretionary spending this year, anyway. With what's happening to our investments, all discretionary spending is now halted.

Congratulations, CUJ & Dems! Good job!

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If all the "experts" in DC think otherwise, they are dumber than Sleepy Joe. After the Afghanistan fiasco, this Russia issue will just prove to more people how utterly incompetent this administration is with every policy, foreign and domestic.

It's not just incompetent. It's a moral crisis.
The Chinese call it "Elite capture". But it's deeper than that. They have undermined the moral fabric of the entire West. Canada is just a bit ahead of us.

The Treason of the Ruling Class

The true believers within the American ruling class, fearful of a populist uprising, convinced the rest of their alliance to go along with casting the January 6, 2021 protest as an “insurrection.” They have imprisoned many without bail or trial including those charged with misdemeanor trespassing. They have choreographed public displays of arresting those who legally entered the Capitol and some who did not enter the building. Their allies in the financial community have arbitrarily closed people’s bank accounts and businesses. They have recruited the social media conglomerates to censor speech. They have stereotyped of all who voted for Donald Trump as “domestic terrorists.”

Never in the history of this country has there ever been a more mal-educated, narcissistic, gullible, and avaricious ruling class. While unfortunately ignored by the bulk of the American citizenry for far too long, these traits were recognized and exploited by one of this nation’s most pernicious adversaries beginning five decades ago.

The Soviet Union did not intend to conquer but instead to destabilize the United State through societal and political transformation so that it would no longer be an impediment to their plans for global hegemony. In the 1960’s and 70’s the KGB recognized that the quickest way to undermine the United States was through subverting those with elitist mindsets in the political, media, entertainment, education and corporate circles.

The operational tenets of communism/socialism are particularly attractive to these egocentrics because these statist philosophies necessitate a permanent one-party ruling class and relegates the unwashed masses to de facto servitude. Having to not answer to the “deplorable” citizenry and to wallow in one’s superiority is irresistible regardless of the reality of communism/socialism. These elites are oblivious to the potential devastation to the bulk of society in becoming co-conspirators with the true believers in their midst.

As these destabilizing doctrines – the latest iterations focus on racial grievance and “equity” -- inexorably penetrate into societal leadership groups, they become the basis on which controlled opposition is structured. That is why the focus of the KGB was always on penetrating and influencing the elite power circles, as they recognized the egocentricity, gullibility and ignorance of so many among America’s ruling elites.

Yuri Bezmenov, a former KGB agent and defector from Russia explained these tactics in an interview in 1984 when he tried to alert America to what was happening as well as the long term consequences:

Never bother with Leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. This was my instruction. Try to get into large circulation established media, the rich, filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals, so-called academic circles, cynical egocentric people, who can look into your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruitable people, people who lack moral principles, who are either too greedy, or to suffer from self-importance, they feel that they matter a lot.

These are the people who KGB wanted to recruit. Radicals serve only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States, all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders, they are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more.

The fact that the American ruling class was the primary target for the KGB speaks volumes about who they are and the accuracy of the Soviet strategy. The Communist Chinese adopted these same tactics beginning in the 1990’s. Their ongoing success in destabilizing the United States by effectively owning and manipulating many among the American elite class, including the current occupant of the White House , speaks for itself.

Perhaps the most apt description of this cabal was penned by the best political humorist since Will Rogers. The late P.J. O’Rourke in his seminal work Give War a Chance wrote:

At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -- miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.

https://www.americanthinker.co...he_ruling_class.html