Is that idiot Biden gonna get us in a war with Russia or China?

January 22, 2022, 08:57 PM

p08

I have a bad feeling as China and Russia think Biden is weak. Or are the hawks in the US government stoking the flames? I am hoping that it doesn't happen, but I am concerned.

January 22, 2022, 09:02 PM

jcsabolt2

Isn’t that typically what we do when we have a recession? Just sayin.

January 22, 2022, 09:07 PM

pbslinger

It's bad for America, so since everything this admin does is, they probably will. I suspect the whole thing is a show just to get us involved.

January 22, 2022, 09:11 PM

Bulldog7972

I used to argue with my mother who was a hater about this. She was convinced Trump was going to get us involved in a war.as were lot of my older friends. I didn't as I knew Trump campaigned on not doing that. Well I was right and it looks like the darling of the Communist Party may just do that. How ironic.

January 22, 2022, 09:17 PM

GregY

Not on purpose. We would preemptively concede. Otherwise it would threaten the Big Guy's 10%

The problem is Biden's incredible ineptitude might see us at war *unintentionally*.

January 22, 2022, 09:24 PM

spunk639

The more concerning thought is can we handle a two front war with China and Russia? Potatus hasn’t been making the best military choices and strategic plans.

January 22, 2022, 09:34 PM

RoverSig

Putin wants us to agree not to defend the NATO partners in the East (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Poland).

Putin doesn't want a war and he doesn't want sanctions. He wants to bluff us into giving him what he wants by scaring us. It seems to be working. If we appease him, we will have Peace in Our Time.

January 22, 2022, 09:37 PM

pbslinger

quote:
Originally posted by RoverSig:
Putin wants us to agree not to defend the NATO partners in the East (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Poland).

Putin doesn't want a war and he doesn't want sanctions. He wants to bluff us into giving him what he wants by scaring us. It seems to be working.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_That_Roared

January 22, 2022, 10:04 PM

Lefty Sig

Biden is going to cause Biden and Xi to take Taiwan and Ukraine and we aren't going to do a damn thing about it, except make some grandstanding comments, add some more "sanctions", and send some money to Taiwan and Ukraine.

If we get in a shooting war with China they can simply cut off all exports to the US. That will bankrupt a lot of large American companies pretty quickly, cause a major recession, and much higher inflation. Sure it would hurt China for a while, but they can probably play chicken longer than we can.

January 22, 2022, 10:10 PM

HuskySig

Which war would be more profitable?

January 22, 2022, 10:11 PM

m58

Yep. That's been their plan along.
Hillary was already setting the stage to go to war with Russia over Syria gas attacks , however she lost the election and that threat ended.
Now it Biden's turn to start a war in order to destroy America and it's people.

January 22, 2022, 10:12 PM

pbslinger

quote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Biden is going to cause Biden and Xi to take Taiwan and Ukraine and we aren't going to do a damn thing about it, except make some grandstanding comments, add some more "sanctions", and send some money to Taiwan and Ukraine.

If we get in a shooting war with China they can simply cut off all exports to the US. That will bankrupt a lot of large American companies pretty quickly, cause a major recession, and much higher inflation. Sure it would hurt China for a while, but they can probably play chicken longer than we can.

I've heard this scenario described as them being able to handle a period of hardship and austerity better than us.

January 22, 2022, 10:49 PM

Lefty Sig

^^^ Yes because China doesn't depend on imports except for luxury goods. They can make most of whatever they need.

And because the Chinese people cannot vote the CCP out of office, they pretty much have to go along with whatever happens. Great Depression and WWII level austerity here means the party in power will be thrown out of office.

January 22, 2022, 11:12 PM

skyline009

If China take Taiwan US will be done in Asia we will be kick out by the CCP lost all creditably to our Asia allies, Japan probably have to go alone with China too.
US dollars will not be the world currency any more, US won't be the world super power anymore which I think might be a good wake up call for all the fucking idiots in this country they have no idea how luck that they are to born in this wonderful country.

January 23, 2022, 12:39 AM

wishfull thinker

quote:
Originally posted by skyline009:
If China take Taiwan US will be done in Asia we will be kick out by the CCP lost all creditably to our Asia allies, Japan probably have to go alone with China too.
US dollars will not be the world currency any more, US won't be the world super power anymore which I think might be a good wake up call for all the fucking idiots in this country they have no idea how luck that they are to born in this wonderful country.

Boy, you're no fun at a party. You're right, of course, but you still aren't any fun at a party.

January 23, 2022, 01:07 AM

Sigfest

They’ve got to start a war. They haven’t killed off enough of us with the C19 or the vaccines. They got quotas to fill.

January 23, 2022, 01:20 AM

Jester814

quote:
Originally posted by RoverSig:
If we appease him, we will have Peace in Our Time.

Is this an idiom? If so, what does it mean?

January 23, 2022, 01:33 AM

Il Cattivo

^^ Google Neville Chamberlain and that phrase.

January 23, 2022, 02:00 AM

reloader-1

quote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
^^^ Yes because China doesn't depend on imports except for luxury goods. They can make most of whatever they need.

And because the Chinese people cannot vote the CCP out of office, they pretty much have to go along with whatever happens. Great Depression and WWII level austerity here means the party in power will be thrown out of office.

Lefty, China is absolutely dependent on energy and food imports. They literally cannot feed themselves without imports…

January 23, 2022, 02:39 AM

Tirod

China is buying farmland in American as fast as they can and offering more than it's worth to get it. They have already purchased Smithfield IIRC.

The interesting part is that Americans who sell to them and who try to find more land with all the money they got, face skyrocketing real estate values - farmland has doubled in sale price.

As for Russia vs Ukraine, it's more noise in the news to cover up the deflating Covid story - with Omicron being a typical late variant the hospitals are back to reporting "with covid" when the reality is in some cases only 50% reported had that as the primary reason to go to the hospital at all. Vaccine reactions are taking up more and more of the beds now. Beating on the war drums with repeated stories over the "impending invasion" keeps the publics focus off that or China menacing Taiwan. And with the DOD forcing "diversity training" and mandated vaxxes we aren't getting stronger to respond to these issues.

One indicator is hearing "we will strongly respond" over and over. If you really can strongly respond, your opponent knows it and doesn't pull any shenanigans. Nope, that line is for public consumption and the point is to sell fearmongering over war to hide the real news.