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I feel the same. It impresses me so on my work Surface laptop, that I've considered rolling back from my all Mac approach. For those that use older deprecated OS software, -- are you not concerned that there are unpatchable, well-know easily exploited vulnerabilities on your primary computer? It's an honest question, I'm not trying to insult. But if you do online banking, or check your retirement funds etc, you must assume that a spy-process on your machine may be phoning that data, including your login credentials, off to a bad actor. Not to say that newer software can't have the same, but the older software absolutely does. ![]() | |||
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His Royal Hiney![]() |
I came in to say I like Windows 10. Granted that the last three years, I had Dell support so if I ran into problems which I did (maybe 3 times a year). I called them up, we set up a remote and they get it back to working again. But now that I'm flying solo, I've made judicious use of the restore point capability. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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If the WinTel community doesn't figure out a response to the ARM processor, I don't know if it will really matter what Microsoft does with Windows in late 2025. The Apple M1's eye watering processes-per-watt simply must be answered by the PC world. With the current x86 architecture, PCs have already grown their heat sinks larger than BMW can grow its grills. Could a newer version of Windows be an answer to that, an OS without all the x86 code, but a better execution than Windows RT? If so, they'd better do it sooner than 2025, if AMD or (Intel???!) can produce a competitive chip. IDK, I'm just speculating. We'll see. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Next decade - 2021. Next Windows OS release in this decade - plan it. Still a lot of legacy Win7/8 in ICS/SCADA. </chris> We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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A teetotaling beer aficionado ![]() |
I've got no issues with W10. No more so with previous versions. Yep, you've got to learn where stuff is but to me it seams intuitive. I guess those who don't like change will find any upgrade more than they care to deal with. I like the security W10 provides. No need for a second party anti virous program. But to each. I'll move along with the most recant MS offering, and always upgrade to the latest Apple ISO offerings for my phone, iPad and watch. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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Perfect! | |||
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What are the chances that the next version won't have a monthly charge to use it? | |||
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Political Cynic![]() |
About as likely as it will be a clean re-write with no data mining built-in | |||
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Nullus Anxietas![]() |
See, I don't understand this. How can one like an O/S that has required intervention by tech support up to thee times/year or having to rescue it via a restore point facility--more than once, it sounds like? In over thirty years of installing, administering, maintaining, and using Xenix, Unix (multiple flavors), and Linux (multiple flavors) systems--servers (multiple roles), desktops, and laptops, I've only had four significant failures I can recall: 1. An early Motorola Delta server running AT&T Unix SVR3 (IIRC) required a full restore from backup when the power failed, came back, and failed again during the filesystem checks during restart. (This was before journaling file systems and I stupidly didn't have a UPS on it.) 2. A Sun Sparc Solaris server's NIS+ network directory service failed to start after a major O/S upgrade. I had to call upon our support contract to resolve. 3. One of my home Linux servers failed to restart after an O/S update. I had to boot back into the previous O/S and remove the update from the boot list. (It was fixed in the next update.) 4. A FreeBSD Unix system required a full restore after I did something exceedingly stupid to it. Note that two of those four were a result of operator headspace. All those systems over all those years amounts to hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of uninterrupted runtime, save for power failures and scheduled maintenance (updates, upgrades and the like). The stuff. just. ran. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Bring back OS2 Warp! | |||
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His Royal Hiney![]() |
it's understandable in the context of the comparison being made with previous versions of Windows. The times when it needed intervention was after driver or OS updates. Otherwise, it hums right along. With previous Windows, I recall the OS just starts to bog down over time with use. I've not had any issues with and Windows 10 Updates that I can recall. I do know I've had issues when I updated drivers. It's the "thrill" of getting the latest driver and reminding myself why change something that's working fine. But I get these notifications from CCleaner, Intel Driver and Support Assistant, and Dell Support Assist that I have "outdated" drivers. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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This. Considering what they are doing with Office Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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LOL. Those were the days... I was the OS/2 Team Leader for my country. My Team was a bunch of runny nose kids that helped IBM (that couldn't make heads or tails of the OS) and provided support and basically manned the official IBM Help Desk. We outsold Microsoft W95 presentation at our main national computing exhibition that year. MS president conceded and congratulated the IBM boss. My teamates called themselves the Lemmings and when we went on official capacity to large corporations (on behalf of IBM) and instruct their IT depts. it looked like a school tour. ![]() 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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