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October 11, 2017, 01:14 PM
Sigmanic
Boy Scouts Of America now open to girls
Could be interesting....will they be offering a stripper pole badge?
October 11, 2017, 01:18 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
Isn't that what the Girl Scouts were for?



Yeah, but Girl Scouts don't really do the same things as the Boy Scouts, so they aren't interchangeable.

Explorer Posts (a Boy Scout variant) have been co-ed for years.

I'd be in favor of leaving the Boy Scouts as for boys only. Expand Explorers for those who want that.




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October 11, 2017, 01:19 PM
newtoSig765
quote:
Originally posted by TXJIM:
quote:
Originally posted by Russ59:
Suddenly my son is anxious to attend his last year of camp, with the hope of earning the Kayaking merit badge with a 16-year old hottie.



Sounds like he is more interested in motorboating than kayaking Big Grin

Oh, thanks a lot, Jim! I may have cracked a rib laughing!


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October 11, 2017, 01:20 PM
darthfuster
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October 11, 2017, 01:21 PM
46and2
Can the boys sell cookies now, because the cookies are 1000000x better than the popcorn?
October 11, 2017, 01:24 PM
oddball
I'm just waiting for feminists to demand mandatory slots on NFL teams. Judging by this, anything is possible.



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October 11, 2017, 01:25 PM
Aeteocles
I support this.

The Boy Scouting program is, in my opinion, far superior than the Girl Scouting program as far as preparing kids for adulthood. The leadership skills acquired on the path to Eagle are worthwhile for any gender.
October 11, 2017, 01:25 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
I'm just waiting for feminists to demand mandatory slots on NFL teams. Judging by this, anything is possible.


Each NHL Team Has an ‘LGBTQ-Inclusion Ambassador’ Now



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October 11, 2017, 01:26 PM
JALLEN
Where were they when I was in Boy Scouts?

I like girls. Some of my best friends were girls. Many of them are decent, moral people, but I wouldn’t want my sister to marry one.




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October 11, 2017, 01:27 PM
Georgeair
What a cluster.

One of the cardinal rules of BSA leaders is no 1:1 contact. Now they've also got to police the fence they have to erect between boy and girl patrols? Patrols in the throes of teenage hormones and chaos?

Sheesh. Eek



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October 11, 2017, 01:30 PM
Kevmo
As an Eagle Scout this pisses me off, as a hetro male who still remembers how girl crazy and horny we were in BSA it worries me...how long till the first B SA pregnancy or sexual assault charge? Will the sell BSA branded condoms to keep in your first aid kit? Does "mess kit" have new meaning?
October 11, 2017, 01:30 PM
Russ59
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
I support this.

The Boy Scouting program is, in my opinion, far superior than the Girl Scouting program as far as preparing kids for adulthood. The leadership skills acquired on the path to Eagle are worthwhile for any gender.


Then the GSA needs to step its game up and make it competitive to BSA.

This is a revenue driven policy change. Once the LDS church completely withdraws from BSA, the organization will be a skeleton of what it once was.


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October 11, 2017, 01:34 PM
olfuzzy
I hate to pop the bubble here but my daughter and her friend both joined the Boy Scouts back in the late 80’s. Technically, they were Boy Scouts in name only because most things they couldn’t participate in.

One of the local Veterinarians, had a program that allowed Boy Scouts to volunteer to work in their facility and the girls were both interested in becoming Vets. so they joined the Boy Scouts. They were not members of a Troop but were allowed to join at the Council.
October 11, 2017, 01:36 PM
Georgeair
quote:
I hate to pop the bubble here


Nothing popped here - that's a completely different level of engagement.



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October 11, 2017, 01:37 PM
deepocean
quote:
Originally posted by Russ59:
Once the LDS church completely withdraws from BSA


For the time being the sponsoring organization has the right to dictate the values of Scouting at the unit level. If a lawsuit or policy change takes this right away, that will be the end of Scouting as we know it.

I am an optimist, but frankly it seems things will inevitably end up that way.
October 11, 2017, 01:38 PM
rusbro
Buried beneath the headlines was the announcement of a new Scout rank: Transgenderfoot.
October 11, 2017, 01:39 PM
2000Z-71
Not sure what to think about this. Initial reaction was WTF? Then I read the linked article and it sounds like they are going to be separate programs. Ok, I'm a little less outraged but still thinking this hasn't been thought all the way through.

Yes, I was a Boy Scout and the camping trips are some of my best memories of growing up. Especially things like the Lad N' Dad campout with my dad. Yes, I have a daughter who can thread a needle with an arrow launched out of her bow. She can also bait her own hooks, spin a torque wrench and operate an AR-15. Would I want her involved with Boy Scouts? Probably not.

While she is a tomboy from hell she also has a girlie streak. Girls and boys are fundamentally different. Let them have their own activities and organizations and quit trying to pretend that there are no differences.




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October 11, 2017, 01:42 PM
bendable
as long it stops the petty pissing and moaning, its all good.

what if they each learn from one another about how to treat the other gender.

a portion of the reason that the bsa and gsa exist is,
getting along with other citizen's,
as many single parent homes as there are now ,
I welcome a responsible adult taking the time,
to actually mentor children





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October 11, 2017, 01:59 PM
justjoe
I object to the "boy" in Boy Scouts. That is just age discrimination. It's wonderful that girls can join the Boy Scouts-- err-- Girl'N Boy Scouts-- but older women, say in their 50s and 60s-- should also be able to become Girl 'N Boy Scouts. The name, of course, should then be changed to Person Scouts of America.

"Of America," though, sounds hostile to non-documented citizens. And "scouts" has the ring of toxic masculinity about it: you know, going out ahead of everyone to check things out-- all the risk, and "adventure." Toxic!

So............let's see..........we should call it............ --let me get back to you on this one.


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October 11, 2017, 02:01 PM
Scoutmaster
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Originally posted by chellim1:
Has Harvey Weinstein applied for Scoutmaster yet?


As soon as he gets back from his European sex rehab trip. Roll Eyes




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