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Gone but Together Again. Dad & Uncle |
My 2002 Ford Ranger would not start today. When jumped, it starts fine. Then put on charger and shows 100%. But, the truck wouldn't start on its own afterwards. Is it possible the battery just doesn't have the umph and needs to be replaced despite showing 100%? | ||
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Sure. Have you had the battery tested under load? It's possible it has a decent resting voltage, but it can't provide the current to actually start the vehicle. "The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford, "it is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards." "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in." | |||
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The One True IcePick |
bad batteries will often show full voltage when on a charger but as soon as you put a load on them the voltage will fall off a cliff. | |||
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If the battery tests good, perhaps the wiring is the culprit. The wiring may pass enough amps to run lights, etc, but not enough for the starter. Simplest issue is a loose/corroded connection at the terminal. After that, the most common gripe online is a corroded ground. === I would like to apologize to anyone I have *not* offended. Please be patient. I will get to you shortly. | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
Yes. It can show full voltage, but be unable to put out enough amps to crank. A load test at Auto Zone, etc. will detect if the battery is shot or not. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Corrosion under the terminals ? | |||
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A Grateful American |
If the cables are in good conditions and all connections are clean and secure, it's mostl likely severe sulfation in the battery. A battery in this state may start in warm weather, but after a day or two, or low temps, it will "act like a dead battery". Lights may work brightly as well. Such a battery needs to be replaced. Usually too far gone to reverse sulfation to a dependable condition. It's just now getting into winter, and you don't want to be dicking around and find yourself in most miserable weather on the side of a busy freeway in ankle deep slush. Replace the battery. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Newer chargers will only charge what it think it needs, if it stops taking a charge and is around 12.5v it thinks it's done or 100%. It's not an indication of the battery condition, for that you need a battery tester. I have an older charger that dumps 60 amps no matter what, all day long. If the battery doesn't take a charge then it just gets hot and starts stinking. | |||
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I bought a new Ram in late '22, when it got cold 2 months later it began to fail to crank. A test at the auto parts store said it was fine, but I had to jump it about every 3rd time I had to go someplace. I finally said fuck it and put a new battery in it, and haven't any problem since (almost 2 years now). | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
Stick a volt meter on it and crank it. If it drops way down when cranking, or trying to crank, it's junk. A good battery will drop a little under load (maybe 1-2 volts), but a bad one will typically drop to half or even less. | |||
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I Am The Walrus |
Going to test mine today. It's about 2.5 years old through the heat and cold of west Texas and heat of Florida. Car wouldn't start yesterday but I jumped it and it started. Started fine this morning. This afternoon it was weak. I bought from Costco 2.5 years ago and I believe there's some sort of prorated warranty. _____________ | |||
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Just went through this a week ago. Bike wouldn't start. It tried, but wouldn't catch before it went silent. I waited about an hour, got it started, rode it home and left it running. It was showing 14v. I shut it down, put my multimeter on it, fired it up and it briefly dropped to 7v before catching. I replaced the battery the next day. | |||
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Bingo. You have a normal surface charge, but voltage is dropping way too low at the starter to do the job. If it works good with jumper cables then you need a new battery. If the battery is more than 3 years old that is probably exactly the problem. The battery has reached end of life, they don't last forever. If both of these are true you may be wasting your time going to the auto parts store for a voltage drop test under load, just replace the battery and you'll be gtg. If you have a better volt meter you can test this yourself, or use a medium priced batter tester, but this again is just wasting your time and money. Buy any name brand battery, like from Sams Club, Walmart, Batter Plus, etc., and install it, and you'll be good for another three years. Last year this exact same thing happend to one of my old trucks, I didn't pay attention to the age of the battery. The voltage at rest showed 12.something volts, but while cranking my voltmeter showed 9.something volts, which is too low to turn the engine. Popped in a new battery, good to go. As a previous poster replied, replace it now unless you like spending the night on ice in a Walmart parking lot waiting for the tow truck in a bad part of town. Been there done that. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Gone but Together Again. Dad & Uncle |
It was the battery. Bought a new one, froze my fingers off swapping it out, and it fired right up. When I added the swap to my maintenance log, I figured out the bad one was 9 years old. That’s a heck of a run for a Walmart ever start battery that cost $100. Thanks everyone for the advice!!! | |||
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Sometimes a starter that’s on its way out will start with the extra amperage provided by the jumper battery. So don’t rule that out. But battery is most likely the culprit. A load test at the parts store will let you know pdq. _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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Oops I posted before I saw your above reply. It's unbelievable you got nine years on that battery. I'd call that a Sigforum or possibly a world record. Ha ! Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
I have a bright yellow permanent marker and mark my battery month and year when I change them. Sounds like you got more than your money's worth out of that one. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
If I was in a WalMart parking lot I'd just go inside, buy a new battery, install it, and be back on the road in 10 minutes! I never get so lucky...I'm usually out in the middle of nowhere when stuff dies. | |||
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From ~1000s of tests run, most of the time you will see ~12.5V on a 'dead' battery just off charge. A lot of the time it will start falling even with just the load of a volt meter. A load tester will draw 10s or 100+ Amps & check the voltage under load. Poor man's load test - if it drops below 10V when you crank it, it's a dead battery. | |||
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Back in the day cars had a voltmeter in the dash. | |||
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