I was running a young man (10 years old) through an IDPA stage last weekend,and the gun he was using a 9mm M&P had a kaboom.

Luckily he was shooting weak hand and the gun blew out the bottom and right side

Darn plastic guns work fine until they don't

I have seen the results of plastic gun / ammo failures multiple times, and it's not pretty

Most Sig stories end with wow scared the heck out of me,blew the mag out of the gun, new mag and its good to go

My 229 / 220 / 226 / 228 has

To Hell and Back Reliability and I believe in it

Scary shit, especially for a ten year old. Hope he wasn't too traumatized.

Anyone I know?

Yet another reason why we need the return of the 9mm 220?

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Originally posted by 6guns:
Scary shit, especially for a ten year old. Hope he wasn't too traumatized.

Anyone I know?

Maybe
we were shooting in New Buffalo
The boy and his Dad shoot there frequently
I cant give out his name, he was pretty cool with everything

Do you ever shoot IDPA any more?

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Originally posted by RC:

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Originally posted by 6guns:
Scary shit, especially for a ten year old. Hope he wasn't too traumatized.

Anyone I know?

Maybe
we were shooting in New Buffalo
The boy and his Dad shoot there frequently
I cant give out his name, he was pretty cool with everything

Do you ever shoot IDPA any more?

Well, I'm sure I know the Dad. Good that it ended as well as can be expected.

It's been a while I'm afraid. Work schedule gets in the way as New Buffalo is the only place I'd want to go....maybe Bend and Berrian also, but further to drive. When my schedule changes I'll try to make it more regularly.

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Originally posted by RC:
I was running a young man (10 years old) through an IDPA stage last weekend,and the gun he was using a 9mm M&P had a kaboom.

Luckily he was shooting weak hand and the gun blew out the bottom and right side

See the big holes in the sides of the frame of this Classic P-series SIG?



Anything that would blow through the side of polymer framed grip, would also blow through those holes, and the plastic, wood, or rubber grip panels over those holes.

^^^^^^ yeah. I like DA/SA P-series guns the most. But to say that somehow they are safer when a gun blows up is really humorous. Worst I ever saw was a 1911. Most of the Glocks I have witnessed did a fraction of the damage.

Just curious, factory or reloads?

So a plastic gun had a kaboom - in the hand of a child no less - and nobody was hurt . . .

. . . but metal guns are so much better because they're metal.

Uuuuhhh...okay?

I don't do competitions, and I've not been to a lot of classes, so in 30 some odd years of shooting I've seen this condition in person only twice.

Both times were out of spec hand loads.

A gun can have a catastrophic failure no matter what it is made of.

This is precisely why I don't reload. If I'm going to have an ammo related kaboom and lose a finger or two I want someone else to be to blame

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
This is precisely why I don't reload. If I'm going to have an ammo related kaboom and lose a finger or two I want someone else to be to blame

Amen.

Much rather be pissed at CCI than myself.

I have a P226 that was made in a special run of unobtainium. It is completely impervious to all destructive forces. I sometimes use it to hammer nails, breakup concrete, and as a boat anchor.

If I still had it, and the ability to take decent pictures, I'd show you a Ruger Super Blackhawk that done blowed up real good. It split the cylinder in half, bent up and broke off at one end the frame top strap, and cracked the frame in half at the barrel threads. And yes, it was a faulty reload, a commonality to these blowups.

If you reload, be safe. It's pretty easy to follow directions. I've had more malfunctions with commercial ammo than reloads, and I'm in the process of negotiating with a commercial producer over malfunctions right now.

I have had several KA-BOOM situations. I had a P-38 sight assembly (parts of it, anyway) removed from my forehead and walnut grip pieces removed from both hands and face. I had a Ruger Security Six with 5 slugs stacked up in the barrel.

The point is, use safety equipment. Doesn't matter what you are shooting, there's always a chance of malfunction.

The boy was shooting reloads

Which I initially suspect as the problem

And yes I know all brands and styles of guns have had some dramatic things happen.

I just feel more comfortable with my older Sigs

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Yet another reason why we need the return of the 9mm 220?

I thought the pressure was actually greater on the 9mm than the .45. Maybe I've been mistaken???

I reload 9mm with a bulky powder that is impossible to double charge. What scares me is firing oob due to a high primer ignition with the breech not locked is bad no matter the material of the pistol.