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Weird call. Scam?

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November 02, 2017, 07:22 PM
JALLEN
Weird call. Scam?
Yesterday, our phone rang. I saw it was a 011xxxxxxxxxxxx number, and was not going to answer it, but my wife did answer it.

A voice said, “Martine?” to which she said yes. It was about carpeting, or roof tiles etc and she hung up without engaging in conversation.

I suspect it was a scam, of course.

What should I do to neutralize whatever hijinks are planned for her, assuming it is a scam.

The country code comes out to Nepal.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
November 02, 2017, 07:27 PM
Skins2881
Never say yes when a strange number calls. There have been recent reports of people editing the call to make it sound as if you have agreed to some purchase or service. Not 100% sure how the scam works but just to be safe I never say yes if I actually answer the call.

Q.

Is this Mr. Skins?

A.

Who is this?

Q.

This is XYZ with ABC Co. Is this Mr. Skins?

A.

I am sorry bad cell service, can you just send me an email?



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
November 02, 2017, 07:40 PM
Icabod
I answer with "What?" Most of the time I just let it right to voice mail. However my wife cannot just let a phone ring.



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November 02, 2017, 07:43 PM
12131
Never answer unknown numbers.


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November 02, 2017, 08:50 PM
rduckwor
Interesting email tonight from "Chase" telling me that a $4K payment had been made to Traci somebody. I could click this link to go to the receipt. Try a little harder guys. URL had a .pl extension. Don't think Chase is shipping out emails from Poland.

They're not so smart.

RMD




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November 02, 2017, 09:16 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
Interesting email tonight from "Chase" telling me that a $4K payment had been made to Traci somebody. I could click this link to go to the receipt. Try a little harder guys. URL had a .pl extension. Don't think Chase is shipping out emails from Poland.

They're not so smart.

RMD

They're smarter than a lot of folks out there, those who fall for their scams. Wink


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November 02, 2017, 09:20 PM
JALLEN
Thanks for all those. What ought I do, now that the event has occurred?

It’s too late to not answer this call, or not respond “yes.”

I’ve had her notify her credit cards.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
November 02, 2017, 09:26 PM
Zorak
Not much you can do now except check your statements for unauthorized charges.

http://fortune.com/2017/03/28/yes-scam-phone-call/
November 02, 2017, 09:29 PM
Phelen_Kell
Yeah, I do answer numbers not known unless from another country. I never say YES and if they ask me who this is, I respond with Who is this? Tell me who you are, where you're calling from and I will let you know if I want to continue talking to you and maybe you'll get my name, if you're not satisfied with that, you can suck it. How can I help you?
November 02, 2017, 09:36 PM
keeotee
A very long time ago I was at my folks house and they weren't home. The phone rang and I answered. A guy started right into his sales pitch, and so I let him ramble for a bit. Then I interrupted and said, hey, look, I don't live here ok. I was robbing the place, the phone rang and I thought I'd answer it.


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November 02, 2017, 09:42 PM
JALLEN
Thanks. I knew about this one, and view incoming calls as a potential source of amusement but not displaying foreign numbers. I won’t give any verifying info to an incoming caller which drives medical callers nuts.

My wife thought it might be from her relatives, and picked it up. She won’t be doing that again.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
November 02, 2017, 09:58 PM
EmpireState
I've gotten a few scam calls from familiar area codes and numbers, making you more likely to pick up. For example, if your number is 866-455-3234, they call from +1(866)455-3234. Almost didnt catch the +1 which I assume means its coming from out of the country.
November 02, 2017, 10:02 PM
chongosuerte
quote:
Originally posted by keeotee:
A very long time ago I was at my folks house and they weren't home. The phone rang and I answered. A guy started right into his sales pitch, and so I let him ramble for a bit. Then I interrupted and said, hey, look, I don't live here ok. I was robbing the place, the phone rang and I thought I'd answer it.


lol

When I was a young cop and thought I was funny, I would answer the phone when it would ring when we were searching houses/buildings, "_____ Police, how can I help you". It was always the alarm company, but I thought I was funny.


Now a days, when my phone rings and I don't know who it is, I answer in Spanish. That usually works.




Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here.

Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard.
-JALLEN

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November 02, 2017, 10:19 PM
NK402
We keep getting calls from Hewlett Packard and there's never anyone on the other end. When I call back, HP answers but claim it's not them making the calls. They say it some sort of hacking and the hackers are checking to see if the line is active ?
November 03, 2017, 07:38 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
when my phone rings and I don't know who it is, I answer in Spanish.
Back in the 1980s AT&T owned a 25% interest in Olivetti, the company that manufactured much of the telephone equipment used in Italy. I was a software engineer at AT&T / Bell Labs, working in a department that was converting some of our AT&T equipment to meet Italian requirements.

My team included a group of visiting engineers from Italy who were in the U.S. to work with us on the transfer of technology. The day they arrived, my new office mate introduced himself: "My name Amadeo Tia. I study English tree month," he said proudly.

He and I decided that we would alternate days. One day would be English day in our two-man office, the next day would be Italian day.

I did not learn as much Italian as I wanted to, but due to his coaching, I am told that I have a very authentic sounding inflection when i do speak the little Italian that I know.

It works well with scammers and telemarketers. Especially when I ask them, in Italian-accented English, what they are wearing.

I think Amy is getting wise to me.



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November 03, 2017, 08:08 AM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by NK402:
We keep getting calls from Hewlett Packard and there's never anyone on the other end. When I call back, HP answers but claim it's not them making the calls. They say it some sort of hacking and the hackers are checking to see if the line is active ?


Yes, I could call you right now and make it look like I was calling from HP. Or your local police department, the White House, or any other number. It's easy and widely available technology that scammers use. It's called 'spoofing'.

Here's an easy to use spoofing solution that anyone can use:
https://www.spoofcard.com/

I always like to emphasize this...It's the number one best protection against scams:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Never answer unknown numbers.




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- John Adams
November 03, 2017, 08:23 AM
220-9er
My standard answer, if I answer, is "who's calling".
I also have a complete credit freeze on all 3 bureaus that costs under $15 and lasts forever or until I unfreeze it. No monitoring required.


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November 03, 2017, 09:37 AM
molachi
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Never answer unknown numbers.


Exactly what I do. If no message is left the number gets blocked.
November 03, 2017, 10:37 AM
Sig2340
Do not answer unfamiliar numbers.

If you do, you end up on scammers' lists of "live numbers." Then the frequency of the calls increases.

I was getting 2 to 6 scam calls a day on my mobile. I installed Trucaller and the frequency is dropping, but I still get one between 1000-1200 and another between 1400-1600 every damned day.





Nice is overrated

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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
November 03, 2017, 12:02 PM
SigSAC
Another current and common spoof - you get a call from a number that has the same area code and prefix of the number you are using (the last four digits are different).

The idea is that you're more likely to answer a call from a local number.

I got one of those "US Government" calls a couple of weeks ago. The user spoke with a heavy accent - I had to ask him to repeat the name of the department - he still used "US Government Department of xx (still couldn't understand him). As the call was coming in to me on a weekend, I HIGHLY suspected the call to be bogus - and stated it as such.