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Am sure you guys can have them easily but down in my hole they are rare and expensive. I received a Gladius flashlight as a birthday gift many, many years ago from the guy who designed it, helped him with his homemade web design. The original flashlight with strobe. Looks that it was a very good idea. Have a couple of hun attached lights that also need them. So, what are these batteries good for in the real world applications? 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | ||
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Didn't people used to call them 'camera batteries'? | |||
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Many of the older Surefire flashlights used them. not sure what other products. | |||
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Yup older tech flashlights still use CR123, I have been curbing new purchases to dual fuel CR123 or 18650 rechargeable.. They do make rechargeable CR123 batteries, can you get these down there? Edit - Pistol/WML use them for me.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sig 226, ------------------------------------------------ 9/11/01 Never Forget "In valor there is hope" - Tacitus | |||
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My Honeywell wireless alarm system sensors use them. "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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I've got a bunch of them for my tac lights, also certain models of eotech optics use them too. You should be able to order them on line. I haven't had to buy them in a while as I transitioned to rechargeable 123s or 18 series rechargeables. | |||
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"CR123A lithium batteries are used to power devices such as alarm system motion detectors, flashlights, cameras, monitors, computer memory, toys, games, LED lights, and much more. CR123A battery equivalents are also known as EL123A, DL123A, RL123A, and more." Microbattery.com In case you're wondering, "The main difference between CR123 and CR123A batteries is their charging voltage. While both types are 3rd-generation lithium-ion batteries, CR123A batteries are charged at 1.5V, while CR123 batteries are charged at 1.2V. This means that CR123A batteries are generally more powerful than CR123 batteries." www.bomzon.com In 1985, the Surefire company pioneered the use of CR123 batteries in flashlights for the tactical community. | |||
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I use them on my Olight S1 Baton and Warrior flightlights, and my Arlo camera. I decided to just get rechargeable. They've already paid for themselves. | |||
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On Memorial Day, I was cleaning out clutter from my nightstand and junk drawers when I came upon my plastic foam-lined Gladius container. I couldn’t remember if it was one of the items I had thrown away in the last year or two due to leaking batteries. I still have a baggy of the CR125s I had gotten from my old agency around 2010 with most still being serviceable. However, at least a couple began leaking after checking them during a de-clutter mission last year. I was about to throw the Gladius container away, when I remembered I may have placed the flashlight in my vehicle’s emergency bag. Yep, I checked yesterday, and it was there. I was surprised it was working still with those close to 10 year old batteries, especially without leakage. Even with it regularly being well over 100 in that black bag in my cargo area, it was still shining brightly. I purchased my Gladius right after intense room clearing training administered by our SWAT team. The members did an exercise using the flashlight’s strobe feature, and we were all blown away! I got one ASAP! I carried it on my duty belt for years until I went to rechargeable Streamlight Strions and Stingers. Even though our agency provided the CR125s, I took better to the rechargeables. Before the Gladius, I knew of CR125s for being for cameras and my old Surefire flashlight I had carried years before. I have a camera collection, but I don’t think any take those batteries. That Surefire is LONG gone. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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You had flashlights powered by a motorcycle battery? | |||
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Met Ken Good online when he was launching Stratego, first company that launched strobe capable flashlight, the Gladius. I had been to Sigarms Academy and the low light stuff was absolute news and fascinating to me. Still have my Gladius as it came to me, probable a 2nd or 3rd production batch. Thought about upgrading it to LED yrarw ago but decided against it. 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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In addition to flashlights I've got a couple of RDOs that use 'em. I use both disposable cells and rechargeables; the cells are the necessary backup to the rechargeable ones. I keep at least 2 or 3 full 12ct boxes of Surefire CR123As around in addition to the one box I'm currently drawing from. I've been less enamored with the charge longevity of the rechargeable cells; almost to a unit they slow leak their charge more so than the disposable batteries do, with some faster doing so than others. Nothing more annoying than discovering one of those $20 Surefire rechargeable cells being dead or nearly so when I know full well that it was put away fully charged only a few weeks prior. -MG | |||
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battery junction about 1.15 each I buy them in bulk for my fenix pd32 led flashlights. | |||
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My experience is about the same. Very short shelf life. So I do a mix of rechargeables and disposables, depending on how I use the device. In the long run I do save a lot of money doing it this way. | |||
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That battery has evolved into having about the most high capacity (mAh) for any battery of the size, running at 3 volts. It's a little powerhouse. Now, duel fuel lights are becoming the rage with most small form factor lights accepting two 123a batteries or one 18650. I lean toward the 18650 and keep a few on hand and top off their charges twice a year. Most battery powered tools are made up of 18650 batteries wired together although other common sized rechargeables are used too. Battery Junction and their Titanium brand are cheap and are a very good 123a battery. I use those for everyday use when I grab a light that isn't an 18650. 123a batteries lose about 1% of the juice a year and at 10 years, it's less than a 10% reduction because in year 1, it's 1% but in year two it's a .09% reduction and so on. I have some batteries that are more than 10 years old and they are just as bright but they just don't last as long. | |||
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Low Light training was exactly what we were doing! Our a SWAT guys were trained in it, and then trained the rest of the agency. Very intense and painful! However, it gave us a lot of confidence clearing buildings after the training, especially in limited to no light. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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Higher voltage than alkaline, higher current delivery than alkaline, more power density than alkaline, don't leak like alkaline. For a while they were king for any electronics with high power demands. Now that lithium ion batteries and decent chargers have become available, the CR123 has kind of become obsolete. Lion batteries have better performance in all of those areas, and they're rechargeable to boot. The only real advantage CR123s have these days is cold weather performance. Lion batteries fall off really hard when it gets cold. "The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford, "it is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards." "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in." | |||
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^Isn't the CR123 a type of lithium ion battery? Although non-rechargeable ("primary"). | |||
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^^^^^ It is. | |||
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They both have lithium in them, but different chemistries and construction beyond that. There's lots of other chemistries as well, with different characteristics, voltages, and care needs. They're not necessarily interchangeable. "The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford, "it is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards." "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in." | |||
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