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A new take on "don't talk to the police..."

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June 19, 2017, 02:34 PM
Ronin1069
A new take on "don't talk to the police..."
This is one of the most brilliant lawyer ads I've ever seen....




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June 19, 2017, 02:36 PM
Ronin1069
They made a sequel...





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June 19, 2017, 03:15 PM
jbcummings
That was pretty good!


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June 19, 2017, 03:22 PM
DMF
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.


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June 19, 2017, 03:40 PM
jljones
They forgot "Snitches get stitches".




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June 19, 2017, 03:47 PM
YellowJacket
quote:
Originally posted by DMF:
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.

I bet you're a hit at parties.



I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
June 19, 2017, 05:09 PM
Sig209
That's awesome. Big Grin

We all love to bash lawyers until we (or a loved one) need a good one.

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June 19, 2017, 05:17 PM
enidpd804
"Never talk to the police" is the dumbest advice lawyers give. There are more than a few innocent people who have had unnecessary long pre-trial jail time because they refused to say what actually happened to officers on scene. This varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but in my state, it's a misdemeanor crime to arrest someone when it appears they acted in self defense.





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June 19, 2017, 05:22 PM
Alpine79830
STOP! I'm driving home from the sawmill in my 1966 rust colored 1/2 ton pickup with my old daddy's .38 pistol by my side. Clete and Kevin stop me and even though we have been friends for 30 years they stop me and advise me of my rights since someone driving a rust colored pickup just put a .356 hole thru Maybell's chest at the liquor store.

What to do?
June 19, 2017, 05:25 PM
gw3971
If this cop ever needs a lawyer I wont be looking to hire these "professionals". I have found that good lawyers don't need to advertise.
June 19, 2017, 05:30 PM
Alpine79830
My parents taught me to wave at cops and firemen, they could be the guys that save you life sometime. I don't remember them saying anything about lawyers. I suspect ground level shit knows the truth first hand, thanks.
June 19, 2017, 05:32 PM
Alpine79830
quote:
Originally posted by enidpd804:
"Never talk to the police" is the dumbest advice lawyers give. There are more than a few innocent people who have had unnecessary long pre-trial jail time because they refused to say what actually happened to officers on scene. This varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but in my state, it's a misdemeanor crime to arrest someone when it appears they acted in self defense.


I would suspect honesty made a difference.
June 19, 2017, 05:33 PM
PHPaul
Brilliant ads. Almost makes me like lawyers... Razz




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June 19, 2017, 05:44 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by DMF:
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.


Do you not understand context at all? Clearly, they are talking about when you are, or might be, the accused. Making reports to the police is not what they are talking about.

And those guys are funny. They have other bits out there.




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June 19, 2017, 05:45 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by enidpd804:
"Never talk to the police" is the dumbest advice lawyers give. There are more than a few innocent people who have had unnecessary long pre-trial jail time because they refused to say what actually happened to officers on scene. This varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but in my state, it's a misdemeanor crime to arrest someone when it appears they acted in self defense.


Try cases often, do you?

It may be true that there are times when talking to the police is okay. (This probably has a lot less to do with actual innocence than you suspect.) But knowing when those times are and what to say when it happens is impossible to convey to a potential client in advance. It would take a 500 page handbook to even begin to do the subject justice. And how many potential clients will have the smarts and experience to absorb such learning, even if you could give it.

So, the best advice you can give someone in advance who may be talking to the police in such a situation is to keep silent. A lawyer can undo silence, but undoing something that implicates the suspect is real work. And, if they are actually guilty, it may be impossible.




The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
June 19, 2017, 06:00 PM
FenderBender
with that first video in mind what about giving your insurance company a statement when a claim is being made against you?


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June 19, 2017, 06:09 PM
ulsterman
quote:
Originally posted by DMF:
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.


Bless your heart.
June 19, 2017, 06:17 PM
ulsterman
quote:
A lawyer can undo silence, but undoing something that implicates the suspect is real work. And, if they are actually guilty, it may be impossible.



Wise words.
June 19, 2017, 06:19 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by DMF:
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.


Do you not understand context at all? Clearly, they are talking about when you are, or might be, the accused. Making reports to the police is not what they are talking about.

And those guys are funny. They have other bits out there.
I understand context just fine, and I also understand their use of "never." In the example I gave, the reporting party is one of many possible suspects, and therefore "might be the accused," later in the investigation. Conversations with the police happen before anyone gets "accused" of a crime, or even "might be accused."

Its easy to say "never" if you're the attorney who doesn't risk anything more than a few billable hours. It's much different for the potential client who has many other risks to consider.


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
June 19, 2017, 06:21 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by ulsterman:
quote:
Originally posted by DMF:
"No matter how innocent you are it's never a good idea to talk to the police."

So, when your spouse or child is missing , and possibly abducted, you're going to wait for your lawyer before helping the cops try to locate them, and/ or apprehend the abductors?

Absolutes, such as, "never talk to the police," don't work well in the real world.


Bless your heart.
Right back at you. Roll Eyes


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman