If I am conscious, I am carrying. Sometimes when even when I’m not conscious. There’s no such thing as off duty anymore.

Preach it.

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Originally posted by 4ftty4:
There’s no CA law regarding cops carrying in bars. It depends on agency policy. Mine says we can’t carry while “intoxicated or impaired”. No definition given for those terms so it’s up to us. If I go out I’ve got a gun.

This is an rguement for a “designated driver” as one of the officer. Sober and armed.

As for the PTSD, there is no record of David Long being treated for PTSD. The VA has no record, neither do the Marines.

Back in the 1980s a paper near Ft. Lewis would often run crime stories with the notation “a former soldier at Ft. Lewis.” It didn’t matter how long ago it was or how brief their service. The “former Marine” seems to be the modern version.

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Originally posted by Icabod:

This is an arguement for a “designated driver” as one of the officer. Sober and armed.

THANK YOU—-I can’t tell you how many times I’ve preached this to officers I’ve worked with and supervised.

so are church's, bars, concert venues out beating the bush's for lic, bonded and insured armed security corporations ?

for their events

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Originally posted by bendable:
so are church's, bars, concert venues out beating the bush's for lic, bonded and insured armed security corporations for their events?

I doubt it, more likely hiring off duty LEOs.

Since each county in CA issues permits on their own terms, my county has terms that explicitly say,

"License holder shall not carry a concealed weapon while taking medication or if in a condition which is likely to impair judgment, behavior, or dexterity, or while consuming alcohol."

Not a lot of wiggle room on that.