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Mass shootings, media conglomerates, and SIGforum
September 02, 2019, 09:13 AM
chellim1Mass shootings, media conglomerates, and SIGforum
Progressives’ Cynical Exploitation of Mass Shootings
https://www.frontpagemag.com/f...tings-bruce-thornton
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
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-rduckwor September 02, 2019, 09:29 AM
molachiI agree. If the media wouldn't sensationalize these shootings maybe (but doubtful) they might slow down. Seems like all these shooters want is for everyone to know and remember their name.
September 02, 2019, 09:34 AM
stickman428I stopped watching TV around 2013. The internet is far more entertaining and not nearly as one sided or propagandist as cable TV. Sure the internet is full of misinformation and propaganda but Cable TV is far worse. Fuck the legacy media including Fox News until the sun burns out.
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September 02, 2019, 10:17 AM
joatmonvquote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
I stopped watching TV around 2013.
I stopped in 2015 mainly because of televised news.
Fear and hate is all they spread. Race baiting, disinformation and separation.
Excellent post Para.
I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not.
September 02, 2019, 10:42 AM
TSEquote:
Originally posted by molachi:
I agree. If the media wouldn't sensationalize these shootings maybe (but doubtful) they might slow down. Seems like all these shooters want is for everyone to know and remember their name.
There is science behind the theory, the press just don't care:
https://www.hhs.gov/answers/me...gion-mean/index.htmlquote:
Suicide contagion is the exposure to suicide or suicidal behaviors within one's family, one's peer group, or through media reports of suicide and can result in an increase in suicide and suicidal behaviors. Direct and indirect exposure to suicidal behavior has been shown to precede an increase in suicidal behavior in persons at risk for suicide, especially in adolescents and young adults.
The risk for suicide contagion as a result of media reporting can be minimized by factual and concise media reports of suicide. Reports of suicide should not be repetitive, as prolonged exposure can increase the likelihood of suicide contagion. Suicide is the result of many complex factors; therefore media coverage should not report oversimplified explanations such as recent negative life events or acute stressors. Reports should not divulge detailed descriptions of the method used to avoid possible duplication. Reports should not glorify the victim and should not imply that suicide was effective in achieving a personal goal such as gaining media attention. In addition, information such as hotlines or emergency contacts should be provided for those at risk for suicide.
Following exposure to suicide or suicidal behaviors within one's family or peer group, suicide risk can be minimized by having family members, friends, peers, and colleagues of the victim evaluated by a mental health professional. Persons deemed at risk for suicide should then be referred for additional mental health services.
Para is right, and probably helping to save lives too.
Calgary Shooting Centre
September 02, 2019, 03:39 PM
vthokyWhat monumental effort would it take to get the media to call these events what they really are: mass
murders?
God bless America. September 03, 2019, 06:46 AM
feersum dreadnaught
NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught"
September 03, 2019, 07:29 AM
pwelch001I’m on board 100%! Thank you chief!
September 03, 2019, 08:29 AM
220-9erAs usual, plenty of people were aware of this guy's violence and potential for much worse but mostly did nothing when it could have helped.
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September 03, 2019, 09:40 AM
StramboI'm definitely with the boss on this one as far as the media is concerned.
The only thing I care to analyze are the nuts and bolts of the incident as it pertains to what can be done better or sustained in terms of an effective response, but that is the A.L.I.C.E. instructor in me talking.
https://www.alicetraining.com/What I really like about that organization is they never mention the names of the shooters either, but rather focus on the names of the heroes involved who saved lives.
“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik
Be harder to kill:
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parabellumbtt
September 04, 2019, 10:11 AM
220-9erMaybe a permanent BTT would be a good idea so less frequent visitors see this.
Back to the subject. For those that want to pass more laws, the Odessa shooter failed a background check for mental health info that popped up on his record. Filing a false statement on that form is already a felony. Does anyone actually enforce that already existing law?
https://www.washingtonpost.com...y-gun-fear-not-feds/
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September 04, 2019, 10:16 AM
Elk Hunterquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Well-stated, Para.
I, too, have gotten to the point where I don't even want to hear about it any more. As with you: Not out of callousness--much less a desire to be uninformed or to avoid news I find uncomfortable or discouraging, but because I, too, have come to the conclusion somebody's trying to play me, and I won't have it.
Could not have stated my position any better than that stated by ensigmatic!
Elk
There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)
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FBHO!!!
The Idaho Elk Hunter
September 17, 2019, 04:34 AM
TRIOI concur with Para and most responses up to this point.
The only exception I have is that I will read about it once as an event occurs and again three to five days later as more facts are known.
This isn't about any morbid curiosity, but I try to learn about the details only to sharpen how I might respond if found to be in those situations. In addition, I only try to learn details only to respond to peers who are worked up about it.
Can this thread be made a "sticky"? It is a very good reminder to all how Para's forum operates in regards to commenting on mass murders.
--Tom
The right of self preservation, in turn, was understood as the right to defend oneself against attacks by lawless individuals, or, if absolutely necessary, to resist and throw off a tyrannical government.
September 17, 2019, 11:30 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by TRIO:
Can this thread be made a "sticky"?
Any thread can become a featured topic but I won't feature this thread right now. Featured threads take up real estate at the top of the first page of a given forum section. For this reason I try to limit the number of featured threads. However, yes, this thread will be featured eventually, as these insane shootings are here to stay, and we would do well to be fully aware of how these events are being used by the news media, and what we can do to deny these soulless conglomerates access to our minds.
September 17, 2019, 11:51 AM
HRKAnd yet the Sun Times ran this article on the labor day festivities, so clearly it's not about people being killed by guns,
Link 43 shot — 8 fatally — in Chicago Labor Day weekend shootings
A 15-year-old boy shot Sunday in Austin is among the eight people killed.
By Sun-Times Wire Updated Sep 3, 2019, 5:16am CDT
December 30, 2019, 02:27 PM
parabellumTime to bring this back to the top
December 30, 2019, 03:15 PM
dave7378quote:
I love my country. With all my heart, I love my country and I am so very proud to be an American. My desire to avoid the hyper-spun "news" of these tragic events does not arise from callousness, although some will see it as such, no doubt. It comes down to my utter disgust with being played with like a toy by the unethical shills of gigantic media conglomerates.
That is like a mini prayer or at least a chant. Well said.
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December 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
pulicordsIn a culture that doesn't differentiate between becoming
famous (through accomplishments that better oneself and the community) and
infamous (through destructive actions that harm individuals or communities), publicizing the actions of infamous/evil actors creates a self-fulfilling prophesy of more of the same.
"I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."
December 30, 2019, 07:41 PM
synthplayer"Wait until all the facts are in before jumping to any conclusions."
My father taught me this at a young age. When I had a son of my own, I reiterated what my father had taught me, but I added a bit more:
"Remember the media has an agenda in everything they do, and they'll use and abuse any story to advance their agenda."
The timing of the Zimmerman/Martin case was perfect. My son was at just the right age for the Zimmerman case to cement in his mind the truth of what my father and I had told him.
To this day, many people still believe what the media told them about that incident. In fact, after Zimmerman's acquittal, folks who had been duped by the media's lies attempted to murder him - and the media even turned the facts about
those incidents around to make Zimmerman look like the stupid, murderous fool they had claimed him to be from the beginning.
It is a classic example of the utter deceit that is the media.
link
I found what you said riveting.