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Massacre at The Pulse: Islam against America, not an anti-LGBTA hate crime
March 06, 2018, 07:00 AM
RichardCMassacre at The Pulse: Islam against America, not an anti-LGBTA hate crime
EXTRA! EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!https://theintercept.com/2018/...re-including-motive/"Newly released evidence today calls into serious doubt many of the most widespread beliefs about the 2016 shooting by Omar Mateen at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, which killed 49 people along with Mateen himself. "
"In particular, Mateen went to Pulse only after having scouted other venues that night that were wholly unrelated to the LGBT community, only to find that they were too defended by armed guards and police, and ultimately chose Pulse only after a generic Google search for “Orlando nightclubs” – not “gay clubs” – produced Pulse as the first search result." Well, who knew? 
"Islam"? Not the narrative.
" Fish in a barrel mass murder?" Not the narrative.
" Total dishonesty in the Progressive Mainstream Media ? Rut-ro, Scooby! On display.
The shooter's wife's lawyers are moving to suppress evidence in her trial.
READ IT WHILE ITS HOT!!!
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March 06, 2018, 07:23 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
...and ultimately chose Pulse only after a generic Google search for “Orlando nightclubs” – not “gay clubs” – produced Pulse as the first search result."
Ah yes Google. Seems their habit of social engineering via how they prioritize their search results put the gays right in the cross hairs of this murderer.
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March 06, 2018, 07:30 AM
220-9erWouldn't that be ironic if Google gets sued by victims and the families over this.
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March 06, 2018, 07:40 AM
RichardCYou're missing the main point of the whole article.
He scouted several venues first
that were too well guarded .
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March 06, 2018, 07:45 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
You're missing the main point of the whole article.
He scouted several venues first that were too well guarded .
I didn't miss that point; just highlighting a possible irony.
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March 06, 2018, 07:50 AM
RichardCYes, good observation.
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March 06, 2018, 08:04 AM
mikeyspizzaquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
You're missing the main point of the whole article.
He scouted several venues first that were too well guarded .
I hope this gets hammered home during the discussions about how to keep schools safe.
March 06, 2018, 08:36 AM
BamaJeepsterThe FBI still lists the motive as 'unknown'. That tells you all you need to know about the FBI.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams March 06, 2018, 08:38 AM
mark60Calls into serious doubt? How many of us had serious doubt?
March 06, 2018, 09:17 AM
BamaJeepsterThe judge has decided to keep a guy in the jury pool who has ruled religion out as a possible motive, and a woman who has trouble understanding English.
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Among those retained in the jury pool was a man who sells forensic cyber-security software and said he believed religion had little to do with a violent attacker’s motive.
“I don’t look at it as a Muslim thing,” the man said.
Another woman still in the jury pool told Byron she had some trouble understanding English and preferred that people speak slowly. Byron said her English comprehension seemed good enough that she could understand court proceedings.
“She’s competent enough to do the job,” Byron said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com...ial-day-1-story.html
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams March 06, 2018, 09:36 AM
ensigmaticThe dominant low-grade entertainment billed as "news" is omitting facts in favour of narrative yet again. Imagine that.
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sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
You're missing the main point of the whole article.
He scouted several venues first that were too well guarded .
Thanks for the article. I passed the link to several in my circle who are concerned about the value of armed guards to security.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. March 06, 2018, 12:02 PM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
You're missing the main point of the whole article.
He scouted several venues first that were too well guarded .
That's one important piece of this, but another every bit as important piece is that we have once again been lied to by a completely politically driven/motivated FBI.
Its a shame that the truth doesn't seem to have any place in society anymore.
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March 06, 2018, 05:08 PM
Yanert98I'm disgusted by the dishonest behavior of the FBI and intentional propagation of a false narrative.
I'm not surprised anymore. But I am disgusted.
When is this shit going to stop??
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March 06, 2018, 05:29 PM
drtenb330The Parkland shooter had some Islamic references on his Instagram page too.
Seems to have disappeared, not been mentioned either. Seems to be a little pattern.
I believe most of us are not surprised Pulse was somehow connected to Islam
March 26, 2018, 01:27 PM
feersum dreadnaughtThis is now starting to stink, too. What did McCabe and Comey know, and when did they know it?
Pulse Club Killer’s Father Seddique Mateen Was Paid Informant of Mueller, Comey FBI – Under Investigation by FBI
A motion filed by Omar Mateen's wife, seeking to dismiss the charges, reveal: FBI just admitted that Omar's father, Seddique, worked with the FBI as an informant for 11 years (2005-16) & himself was under investigation for sending $$ to Afghanistan & Turkey
Noor Salman's lawyers say FBI hid these key facts until now out of embarrassment: it was due to FBI's close relationship w/Mateen's father that they didn't arrest Mateen when they investigated him in 2013. Also, prosecution of Noor intended to protect real accomplice: FBI's asset
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...nvestigation-by-fbi/
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March 26, 2018, 02:14 PM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by drtenb330:
The Parkland shooter had some Islamic references on his Instagram page too.
Seems to have disappeared, not been mentioned either.
Wait... what?!?
Seriously? Is this true? How could this NOT have been mentioned?
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-rduckwor March 26, 2018, 06:59 PM
zoom6zoomquote:
How could this NOT have been mentioned?
You're kidding, right?
I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. March 26, 2018, 07:16 PM
mr kablammoquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
quote:
Originally posted by drtenb330:
The Parkland shooter had some Islamic references on his Instagram page too.
Seems to have disappeared, not been mentioned either.
Wait... what?!?
Seriously? Is this true? How could this NOT have been mentioned?
It was mentioned in posts here on SF.
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March 26, 2018, 07:33 PM
Bigboreshooterquote:
Pulse Club Killer’s Father Seddique Mateen Was Paid Informant of Mueller, Comey FBI – Under Investigation by FBI
OR.......he was a mole keeping his homies updated on what the FBI was looking for...
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