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When Did Thawed-Out Previously Frozen Fish Become A Thing At Supermarket Seafood Departments?
May 15, 2017, 09:41 AM
bendableWhen Did Thawed-Out Previously Frozen Fish Become A Thing At Supermarket Seafood Departments?
the neighbor was telling me about a documentary , that went around testing the ocean fish in stores, they found that over 55% of the fish that they purchased , was not! what the label said it was.
they were labeling as expensive fish and then putting much cheaper fish in the packages.
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May 15, 2017, 10:57 AM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by bendable:
the neighbor was telling me about a documentary , that went around testing the ocean fish in stores, they found that over 55% of the fish that they purchased , was not! what the label said it was.
they were labeling as expensive fish and then putting much cheaper fish in the packages.
That's definitely a big issue and it sounds like it's pretty widespread.
That fried "catfish" you had at a local restaurant may not have been true American farm-raised catfish at all but some Chinese or Vietnamese impostor that was raised in basically a sewage pool.
May 15, 2017, 11:03 AM
jhe888It makes it easier to get fish to anywhere. They don't have to rush ship it.
But, and this drives me crazy, I live in Houston, Texas - 65 miles from the Gulf of Mexico, which is full of delicious fresh shrimp. But the grocers here sometimes have fresh, never frozen shrimp, and sometimes don't. Same for other local fish - red snapper, redfish, and flounder.
I guess there isn't enough demand for the big grocers to set up separate distribution for truly fresh fish. But this close to the water, it still irritates me.
And there is a difference between frozen and truly fresh.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. May 15, 2017, 11:09 AM
rangeme101I to worked for a large grocery chain 25 yrs ago, Kroger. it was going on then. as others have said its called IQF, individually quick frozen.
I actually worked for a local "frozen food" store, as a teenager, years prior to the grocery store. it was my first "real paycheck paying taxes job". and they had IQF. that was the first time I was educated on it. they had frozen seafood, entrees, pizza, vegetables, potatoes, soups, steaks and so on. basically if it could be frozen in a bag, box or aluminum tray they had it.
its been around for a long time. you just now are noticing it. being from N.O. if its not "off the boat", its not fresh its IQF or still frozen.
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snwghstquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
It makes it easier to get fish to anywhere. They don't have to rush ship it.
But, and this drives me crazy, I live in Houston, Texas - 65 miles from the Gulf of Mexico, which is full of delicious fresh shrimp. But the grocers here sometimes have fresh, never frozen shrimp, and sometimes don't. Same for other local fish - red snapper, redfish, and flounder.
I guess there isn't enough demand for the big grocers to set up separate distribution for truly fresh fish. But this close to the water, it still irritates me.
And there is a difference between frozen and truly fresh.
Shrimp season for most of the TX waters closed last week. Federal water I believe is still open though they deep water shrimp. Whites and royal reds (both will be frozen before they get to mainland as the double riggers will stay out in the gulf until they full
They just started to open last week. for the brown shrimp season here in Louisiana. Inland waters by me opened this morning
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May 15, 2017, 03:21 PM
jhe888I understand about seasons, and that isn't what I am talking about. You often can't get fresh seafood here when you should be able to. If the season is closed, I get it.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. May 15, 2017, 04:17 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by bendable:
the neighbor was telling me about a documentary , that went around testing the ocean fish in stores, they found that over 55% of the fish that they purchased , was not! what the label said it was.
they were labeling as expensive fish and then putting much cheaper fish in the packages.
I read a similar article, but it was directed at expensive restaurants, substituting similar lesser fish for say, Chilean sea bass and similar.
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jhe888quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
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Originally posted by bendable:
the neighbor was telling me about a documentary , that went around testing the ocean fish in stores, they found that over 55% of the fish that they purchased , was not! what the label said it was.
they were labeling as expensive fish and then putting much cheaper fish in the packages.
I read a similar article, but it was directed at expensive restaurants, substituting similar lesser fish for say, Chilean sea bass and similar.
Names for fish are - how can you say it - fluid. Sometimes it is just fraud. They say it is something desirable when it is actually Morton's fish sticks they scraped the breading off. Other times they re-christen a formerly unwanted fish with a new sexy name and sell it that way.
Funny you mention Chilean sea bass, which is actually called Patagonian toothfish. Not very appetizing sounding (and they are ugly, too), and you couldn't give them away until a fish wholesaler renamed them 30 or so years ago. Of course, it is a tasty specimen, but no one wanted them when they were toothfish.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. May 15, 2017, 04:42 PM
45_AutoI get my seafood Fresh from the pier in Boston. I have a guy who picks up fresh fish and shellfish daily from Boston and delivers it in the afternoon.
He also gets fresh Salmon raised in the cold sea off Scotland, it's airfreighted on ice daily to Boston, and delivered the next day to local markets.
The Grocery chains around here all sell "previously frozen" and let me tell you there is a huge difference in quality!
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May 15, 2017, 05:57 PM
46and2Yeah, Orange Roughy sells way better than Slimehead.
May 15, 2017, 06:08 PM
RAMIUSEven sushi and sashimi is frozen first before being consumed.
Although this is done to protect against parasites.
May 15, 2017, 07:43 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
Don't fishing boats flash-freeze the fish on the boat?
No, longline boats that catch Mahi Mahi, Tuna, Wahoo and other pelagic fish hold them with saltwater ice which keeps them very very cold, but not frozen. Central American pelagic fish get boiled in the sun floating around in the bottom of the fishermans open panga till he gets in and then it gets processed and frozen, which is why I will NEVER buy it.
Other fish may get frozen once they're caught like cod and such.