Big news for NC if the governor passes it. If not, I think we have enough votes to override him.

Nazi Mecklenburg loves controlling CCW. I'm looking forward to no longer needing a permit.

https://ncnewsline.com/2025/06...bill-sends-to-stein/


The North Carolina House voted 59-48 Wednesday to pass a contentious bill authorizing constitutional carry, sending it to Democratic Gov. Josh Stein for approval.

Senate Bill 50, “Freedom to Carry NC,” would allow individuals who are U.S. citizens, at least 18 years of age, and not otherwise prohibited by law, to carry concealed weapons without applying for a permit.

It’s one of the most controversial topics of the legislative session.

Members of Republican leadership support the bill, which would make North Carolina the 30th state to approve of so-called “constitutional carry.”

Republican Reps. Ted Davis of New Hanover and William Brisson of Bladen and Sampson counties voted against the bill. Davis also voted against the measure during Tuesday’s House Rules Committee hearing.

Ten Republicans and 3 Democrats abstained from voting.

Stein signaled to reporters on Tuesday that he would veto the bill, according to The Carolina Journal. It’s possible the legislature doesn’t have the numbers to override a gubernatorial veto after Republicans lost their supermajority in the House following November’s elections.

Rep. Keith Kidwell (R-Beaufort) presented SB 50 to the chamber.


Rep. Keith Kidwell (R-Beaufort) (NCGA screengrab)
“It allows people to constitutionally carry a firearm without obtaining a permit from the government to exercise their God-given right to defend themselves,” he said.

The bill does not change who may buy a firearm or the circumstances surrounding when or where an individual can carry a firearm, Kidwell said.

Debate was lengthy, lasting about an hour. Roughly half of a dozen Democrats rose to speak out against the legislation, while a handful of Republicans defended it.

Rep. Phil Rubin (D-Wake) cited surveys from Everytown for Gun Safety and Elon University that found a large majority of North Carolina voters were against removing permit requirements from concealed carry laws.

Rep. Allen Buansi (D-Orange) said the bill made him think of his community: the people and the law enforcement.

“This bill would make their jobs a whole lot harder and put them at an even greater risk,” he said.

Rep. Marcia Morey (D-Durham) proposed an amendment that would remove the first section of the legislation — the parts about eliminating the permit process.

It would leave the portions about compensating the families of gun violence victims. These provisions were added by Democratic amendments when the measure appeared on the Senate floor in March.

“I just ask you to vote, pick out the most controversial, dangerous part of the bill,” Morey said.

Kidwell asked the chamber to shut down Morey’s amendment.

“This basically just guts out the bill,” he said.

The amendment failed by a vote of 46-61.

Morey argued that SB 50 itself highlights the harm it will cause.

“The first part eradicates the need for a permit to carry a concealed weapon, yet the rest of the bill addresses the irreparable damage that will come,” she said. “It increases compensation for families, of slain law enforcement, EMS. It provides scholarships for children whose family members die.”


Rep. Tracy Clark (D-Guilford)(NCGA screengrab)
Rep. Tracy Clark (D-Guilford) shared two emotional stories about her own experience and trauma from guns.

A childhood friend died by suicide while the pair attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill together. Four years later, Clark lost another friend, Eve Carson, to homicide.

Carson, UNC-Chapel Hill’s student body president, was shot and killed near the campus in March 2008.

“Two totally different stories that I’m traumatized by: suicide with a good guy with a gun, homicide with two very bad guys with a gun,” Clark said. “I have to speak out today because this bill goes too far.”

House Democratic leader Robert Reives said he was moved by Clark’s painful remembrance of her friends lost to gun violence.

“I felt I would be less of a man not to stand up and tell her how much I feel those stories,” said Reives.

Rep. Jay Adams (R-Catawba) reminded the chamber that he, like many of his friends, are part of the baby boomer generation born to World War II veterans whose parents taught them how to own weapons responsibly. Adams said he has owned firearms since he was 11 years old.

But circumstances are different now, Rep. Amos Quick (D-Guilford) retorted. He said everybody is a law-abiding citizen until they’re not.

“When I was in school, no one thought about a school shooting,” he said. “If we pass this bill, we are opening the door potentially for more of our children to have to endure the horrors of being locked in their classroom, because one of their classmates, 18 years old, had the state of North Carolina’s stamp of approval to go and get a weapon and conceal it and walk in the school.”

North Carolinians Against Gun Violence are calling on Governor Stein to veto SB 50.


Becky Ceartas, executive director of NCGV
“The safeguards we lose if we repeal the requirement for a concealed carry weapons permit are all too dangerous to risk when it comes to public carry of firearms in North Carolina,” said Becky Ceartas, executive director of NCGV. “Without a background check, the public and law enforcement do not know who is illegally carry a concealed weapon or not.”

Ceartas said weak concealed carry weapon permitting laws also increase gun thefts by approximately 35%.

“The General Assembly is taking us in the wrong direction for our state, and we urge Governor Stein to veto this dangerous bill.”

Immediately after approving SB 50, the House passed legislation (HB 811CS) that would appropriate $1 million in recurring funds over the next two fiscal years. This would allow North Carolina’s community colleges to establish a comprehensive firearm safety instruction course, making “the instruction as accessible as possible to all citizens 18 years and older who seek to enroll.”

I think this is a shitty move by republicans to placate gun owners. If they were serious they would have done it years ago when they had a veto proof majority.

Now when dickless veto’s it they will throw their hands up in the air and say “well we tried real hard for you guys. Keep voting for us and make a donation too.”

Stein is a dyed in the wool liberal democrat. He was lockstep with biden and the justice dept. When he was the AG. Nothing has changed.

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As pro 2A as I am,I must agree with the above. This is not a bill N.C. needs.

The usual cries of "city streets running with rivers of blood", or "our streets will turn into the Wild West" bullshit was the rhetoric Democrats had in Texas when C.C. was on the table. And when it passed, and years later, none of this happened.

Interesting to see so many Republicans abstaining from the vote.

I lived briefly (a year and a half) in North Carolina at the turn of the century, on a transfer with my employer.

With all due respect to our NC members, I found that state to be a somewhat odd place. It doesn't seem to know exactly what it wants to be- Southern or Northern.

Also, I found the pistol purchase permit system terribly antiquated, which required a person to get approval from their county sheriff to buy a handgun, a vestige of Jim Crow, as I understand it.

This law was in force until two years ago. Bizarre. This is part of the reason I felt like I was living in a northern state when I was there.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms, with permission from the sheriff, shall not be infringed.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
It doesn't seem to know exactly what it wants to be- Southern or Northern

That's very accurate. I personally like many aspects of that dynamic tension, but having lived in six other states, some of the uniqueness can grate. Still, that having been said, we could live anywhere and like it here.

There are enough Ds in rural areas that there is hope of an override, if Stein does his thing. Having a permit already, I don't have much of a dog in this hunt, but I think anything that makes criminals more nervous about their potential prey maybe, just maybe, not being defenseless would be a plus.

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Also, I found the pistol purchase permit system terribly antiquated, which required a person to get approval from their county sheriff to buy a handgun, a vestige of Jim Cow, as I understand it.

We had that law in Fairfax County. When the S&W 629 was announced, I ordered one at Herman's Sporting Goods in Tysons Corner. When it came in, they disproved it so I had it shipped to Loudoun County where I own property.

Hoping you guys in NC have enough votes to override his veto.

I agree with what scot818, this is very weak of the Republicans there to finally vote this out now. They had a clear path before with a R Governor a couple of years ago. They refused to get out of their way and vote with honest citizens in mind.

I hope this gets passed and you become state #30.

NC is not the southern state I grew up in any longer, of course there are areas and pockets of that sensibility but on the whole it's changed for the worse.
sooo many northern transplants here from more liberal states and they did indeed bring their politics.
that purchase permit from your county sheriff was an abomination and finally got chopped, better late than never...we'll see how the carry bill goes.
there's always hope we can turn things around.

It would be great to see NC get Constitutional Carry. It and Virginia are the only "Southern" holdouts.

North Carolina is a beautiful state. The wife and I drove all over NC, from Tennessee to Virginia to the coast. The beach at Wilmington, the bookstores on Franklin Street in Chapel Hill, seeing Biltmore Estate from the air, covered in mist early on a beautiful October morning, Asheville for our first wedding anniversary- great memories.

I choose to be positive about it. I'm in one of the most liberal counties and cities. NC is not what is was when I was growing up and the sheer quantity of northern and Californian transplants is wreaking havoc. I still love the state I was born and raised in. If it wasn't for my church, friends, and neighbors, I would have moved out a long time ago.

Well, as expected he did his thing yesterday

Stein vetoes three bills

Veto override activity has begun - hopefully they'll find a few rational "D"s in the house, too.

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Conservative advocates for the bill say removing the permit requirement would strengthen the safety of law-abiding citizens.

“Law-abiding North Carolinians shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to effectively exercise their Second Amendment rights," Senate leader Phil Berger said in a press release criticizing the veto and planning for an override vote in his chamber.