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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Having spent 4 years at Great Mistakes as a Recruit Division Commander (RDC) I can only roll my eyes at another program that pushes the woke agenda. This will be time spent pushing CRT, Wokeness, White Privilege, and other liberal issues.

From the article;
-focusing on suicide prevention and character
issues such as sexual assault, hazing and
extremism in the ranks.
-The changes come as the Navy grapples with a
string of shipboard crises in recent years, from
deadly fires to disastrous collisions, and the
military struggles with spikes in suicides as
well as sexual assaults and other bad behavior.
-More recently, the services have been struggling
to root out racism and extremism, after a number
of former and current service members were
involved in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at
the U.S. Capitol.


Claiming that anything done in boot camp will directly prepare a recruit for duty at a sea command is laughable. The only direct impact boot camp has to duty on a ship is to instill the ability to follow directions and to be willing to understand how little you know and the willingness to learn. There is a reason why every recruit goes to some form of follow-on training prior to reporting to a ship. Even the recruits going as undesignated seaman (think general laborer) go through a few week long apprenticeship training school where they get basic training specific to the role they will be filling. All of the boot camp shipboard based training they get in seamanship and firefighting is general training designed to give them basic exposure to it, not any usable skills in it.

Today’s shortcomings in the military are due to a failure in leadership at all levels. Changes like this are designed to redirect accountability by creating pointless solutions to avoid addressing the root cause of the problem. Attempting to claim that boot camp is not doing enough in preparing recruits for life at sea is a factor in collisions at sea and inefficient firefighting abilities aboard ships is akin to claiming that because some cops are having accidents all trainees must now do a police ride-along prior to starting the academy to better prepare them for emergency vehicle driving on the force.

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The fact they are adding this crap is 100% “programming”.

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-More recently, the services have been struggling
to root out racism and extremism, after a number
of former and current service members were
involved in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at
the U.S. Capitol.

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Originally posted by selogic:
More classes on diversity and inclusion . Maybe throw in a little climate change crap for good measure since it is the biggest threat you know ...

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Originally posted by rat2306:
IIRC, back in my Navy boot days we had Fire Fighting and Damage Control training lasting perhaps three days (1977). Make it a week; and nothing but those topics (well, basic military skills to include more close order drill). See what happens. That's where my unit learned to become a team and work together. A big issue will be whether centers like Great Mistakes have what they need to do it. Perhaps in the last 40 odd years, the focus has been on training specialists first, sailors second (definitely a discussion to be held in wardrooms and goat lockers throughout the service).

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
Been a LONG time (2/69) but I'm pretty sure boot was 12 weeks.

Don't remember any SERIOUS fire/damage control training, just some basic familiarization.

RE: follow-on training - I reported to GLAKES 2/27/69 and arrived at my first actual duty station 9/1/70 so that was 18 months of boot camp and schools before I did anything of benefit to the Navy.