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Nationwide Microsoft Teams Outage

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January 26, 2024, 01:51 PM
Dzozer
Nationwide Microsoft Teams Outage
MS teams is widely used- but apparently the software is actively tied in with Microsoft enough that if there is an outage at MS, it impacts all their customers...

Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users



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January 26, 2024, 01:55 PM
Chris17404
Yep. Experiencing that myself right now.



January 26, 2024, 01:57 PM
creslin
yeah it sucks





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January 26, 2024, 01:59 PM
P250UA5
Working but with some strange behavior

Edit: Turns out ours was a closed port issue.

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January 26, 2024, 08:09 PM
YooperSigs
Hmmm... I just read that MS just laid off quite a few people. I wonder if its all related.


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January 26, 2024, 08:56 PM
scratchy
Locked my mac up tight. Could not exit teams


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January 29, 2024, 07:30 PM
wrightd
I had the same problem, I just saw this thread. It locked up so tight I think I may have been forced to reboot. Teams is required to be up in our org, it's how we are hunted down. Even after having used it so long, I still don't find it very intuitive, seems like I have to hunt and peck whenever I need to do any of the 20/80 functions.




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January 29, 2024, 07:38 PM
PASig
My company (Defense) just switched to Teams and it SUCKS ASS. They’re shutting Slack down next month which is 1000x more intuitive and user friendly and people are pissed.


January 29, 2024, 08:07 PM
AKSuperDually
I hate teams.

I think it is a significant security vulnerability.

Most of our law clients prefer it, especially state workers.


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January 29, 2024, 09:11 PM
Ozarkwoods
Hmmm maybe a disgruntled x employee had a way to back door the system.


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January 30, 2024, 05:19 AM
Bytes
quote:
Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
I hate teams.

I think it is a significant security vulnerability.


Interesting observation. Why do you think that it is a significant security vulnerability over something like run of the mill email phishing hacks? Maybe the file transfer mechanisms or outlook integration? We are currently using Teams but looking to renew our contract for next year and are evaluating Teams, Slack, and Zoom using 3rd party penetration testing on all three. We are about halfway through the testing and none seem more vulnerable or more secure that their competitor.
January 30, 2024, 05:51 AM
Veeper
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
My company (Defense) just switched to Teams and it SUCKS ASS. They’re shutting Slack down next month which is 1000x more intuitive and user friendly and people are pissed.


We’re on a similar path. Part of the issue is that Slack costs an arm and a leg, whereas Teams is free with E3/E5 licenses most people already have.

It’s too bad no one of consequence ever listens when we tell them how much business gets done over Slack huddles.




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January 30, 2024, 06:28 AM
Wasabi
Same here. To cut costs as well, my company is moving away from Slack/Zoom to Teams. Teams sucks and people aren't happy.


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January 31, 2024, 02:23 PM
AKSuperDually
quote:
Originally posted by Bytes:
quote:
Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
I hate teams.

I think it is a significant security vulnerability.


Interesting observation. Why do you think that it is a significant security vulnerability over something like run of the mill email phishing hacks? Maybe the file transfer mechanisms or outlook integration? We are currently using Teams but looking to renew our contract for next year and are evaluating Teams, Slack, and Zoom using 3rd party penetration testing on all three. We are about halfway through the testing and none seem more vulnerable or more secure that their competitor.
Sorry, I had walked away from the computer for a while.

I'll start with...I'm not a computer security specialist/expert. So I may not know what I'm talking about...or rather, many people here, potentially including you, may know a lot more than I do.

We work with multiple large banks as a vendor, all require us to sign into their systems to upload files and communicate. Bank of America especially, sends near daily communications about various types of hacks, viruses, etc and their sources being vendors like us. Teams is run ]by Microsoft, and that's where my trust ends. Every Microsoft program is so intertwined in every file system and mixed with constant updates and vulnerability fixes. All these vulnerability fixes....they're fixing problems, right? Problems discovered through what means?

I'm not a teams expert either. I have it on one computer because it's been required to communicate with some of my clients. Perhaps there is a way to limit the risk and exposure in how you utilize teams. I don't know.

The banking and real estate industries have been hit hard recently with serious attacks. Title companies held ransom, loans unable to process, LARGE banks shut down for multiple days (the back-end processing software), several cloud based software programs gone completely leaving their customers unable to do business and scrambling to find solutions. I've been getting communication from some of the larger corporations that they're refusing to allow their information to interact with certain banks and title companies due to the rampant hacking and espionage taking place. Just yesterday I was looking at a LOI for a CRE purchase with the large corporate entity selling the RE to a local investor and remaining in place as a NNN lease. They were refusing certain banks and title companies due to security risks. We're seeing more of this.

My neck hairs are on edge at all these cloud-based vulnerabilities and communication hubs. They're ALL getting hacked, and vulnerabilities must be weighed.

We also do business (rarely these days) with BIA (Indian Affairs), and their requirement is that any computer we use to perform work for them cannot be connected to the internet. They take the vulnerabilities very serious.

I do often wear tin-foil... but then I read the anecdotal stories of others in my industry who are losing everything due to hacks and ransomware...mostly affected by someone else's mistakes. Residential appraisers who did work for Loan Depot (we don't...they're too shady for us) learned the hard way recently.


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"The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964
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"Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 Big Grin
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January 31, 2024, 03:29 PM
Bytes
quote:
Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
I do often wear tin-foil... but then I read the anecdotal stories of others in my industry who are losing everything due to hacks and ransomware...mostly affected by someone else's mistakes. Residential appraisers who did work for Loan Depot (we don't...they're too shady for us) learned the hard way recently.


I get it for sure. Being sorry is too late and often expensive. We do and will require all Teams (or Zoom if we go with them) communication to come from within our internal network. We do allow users to VPN in to our network so that is why we are doing penetration testing of "meeting" software. File transfers (if communication outside of a corporate network) seem risky as hell to me. Just wondering if you had any bad experiences in that realm. Thanks for your response AK.