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Debated posting this but here we go. I have been a gun owner for more than 55 years.Today while lining up my new green laser with the iron sites on my gun I pulled the trigger.100% a STUPID move.Never should have happened. Failed basic gun safety 101. NO excuse. Gun should have been made safe as I was in the house with no intent of trigger use. Double check your gun is clear. Don't think you are going to automatically avoid mistakes. | ||
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My dad always taught me that your learn your biggest lesson right after your biggest mistake. My guess is this will never happen to you again. | |||
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I once shot and killed a chest freezer. Not an ND, per se, but it was quite stupid. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I witnessed an ND once, it was surprisingly quieter [9mm in a carpeted bedroom] than I expected. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
I can’t pick up a pistol in my house without racking it clear at least 6 times but then again I have young kids and do not have anything loaded even in a pistol safe. I just can’t do it. My carry gun gets unloaded at the end of each day I carry. | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
Direction - Trigger - Loaded, sounds like you violated all three. It is easy to do, guns want to be loaded, fingers want to be on triggers, and there is no dearth of unsafe directions. You have my sympathy, and admiration for admitting to your mistake, unlike many individuals of less integrity. | |||
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I'm curious, do you check for bullet set-back with the unloading and reloading? I've noticed it quite a bit. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Did you hit what you were aiming at?
I find it a lot easier to just leave it holstered and not touch the trigger. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Not me. I keep all my carry guns loaded always. And I too have small children. I find it safer that way. I once did unload my carry gun daily many many years ago, and it had caused some serious setback a couple of times on my defensive rounds. Now the only time I unload my firearm is if I'm cleaning it or using it at the range. I don't even unload it when I go away for extended periods. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Mine only gets unloded when at the range, otherwise its loaded & chambered always & even that was enough that I've had to discard a couple rounds to setback. Seems to happen quicker with 357Sig. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Have you dropped your handgun yet ? Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Truer word are seldom spoken. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Yes, bullet setback is a definite thing with Kahr pistols the way you chamber them which is by slide release and the pistol does it very enthusiastically. I change out my chambered round every couple months because of this. | |||
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delicately calloused |
I taught the jr DFs gun safety when they were very young. Every time the guns came out of the safe I drilled those boys about the safety rules. I made them repeat the rules before they could even be in the room with me. Over the years they became very responsible and vigilant. I got to the point that I didn’t worry about them anymore. Until three weeks ago. One of the Jr DFs was showing his AR to a friend. As he had been taught, he dropped the mag and cycled the BCG. He held the barrel in a safe direction, but he went and pulled the trigger which I had always discouraged even if the weapon had been cleared. Because over the years he had neglected to visually and physically check the chamber (eyes and fingers), when the bolt didn’t extract the round in the chamber and slammed home when released, the rifle was now ready to fire. And it did fire. The round went through a cabinet, through two metal pots, through my cast iron pan, into the oak plank floor, through the sub floor and at least one joist, into the basement office from the ceiling and bounced off of the drywall across the room. When I heard the report I wasn’t sure what I was hearing. I went out of my room to check and there was an astonished son frozen in place holding his rifle. As soon as I saw what happened I raced downstairs to check on the others in the house. No one was hurt. Back up I went to learn how the ND happened. As he explained, I stopped him and asked why he didn’t stick a finger in the chamber. He paused and realized how it happened. You cannot rely on the gun to always function as expected. You must be the one who ensures the weapon is clear. I am sure he will never make that mistake again in my house because I have changed the rules now. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Back, and to the left |
I never unload unless I feel a need to clean clothes lint out of the barrel, nooks and crannies after being carried a while. When at home, I pull it from the carry holster and insert in a 'desk' holster (a very inexpensive BLACKHAWK #7 Black Nylon Hip Holster), snap it secure and put it on an old mousepad in it's spot in my office desk drawer. Loaded, pre-cocked striker pistols with exposed triggers create a bit more anxiety in a drawer for me, so it is always holstered. I do it with Sigs too, just a bit more aware with a PPQ M1. This also secures the magazine since it is a paddle release. Every once in a great while, I might switch mags and unload and clean the ones 'out there' for a couple years or more. I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. -Ecclesiastes 9:11 ...But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by Him shall glory, but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped. - Psalm 63:11 [excerpted] | |||
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wishing we were congress |
Every once in a while someone posts a mistake they made in firearm safety. I always hope no one got hurt. But I am grateful that people post these events. Whenever I read such a post, it reinforces and reminds me to follow the basic safety rules. Periodic reminders of the basics is generally a good thing in most things we do. Just like periodic training to maintain skill. Some might say "You shouldn't need a reminder". Well I have carried guns for over 50 years, and an occasional reminder is not a bad thing for me. | |||
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A .380 ACP into a pillow, then into an arm of a friends’s sofa, and into an exterior wall, for me. Being in LE, I’ve been around others in my presence, and closest, a .40 hit at my feet. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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I’m glad no life or limb was lost. Did it destroy anything irreplaceable? I too keep my carry gun loaded because of setback issues. But it’s still locked in the safe inaccessible to the kids. | |||
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If you see me running try to keep up |
A few years ago I had one, nobody injured. I asked myself over and over how I screwed up and did it. Friend of my with decades of firearm experience (I trust him more than most shooters know) had one and shot his hand. Flesh wound only so not as bad as it could have been. Learn from it and don't let it happen again. | |||
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