To think that she was oblivious to his goings on's is just not realistic. She knew. It was her present to him. Nothing he did was without her knowledge. You can bet on it.
Surely there were things she wants to say she knew nothing about

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
It was her present to him.

You don't know any such thing. Believe what you want, and logic be damned. Have fun making shit up to satisfy your beliefs.

Y'know, this is part of the reason I've disallowed discussion of this annoying, massively overblown Epstein shit in this forum, and it looks like we're headed in that direction again.

The country is excited about wallowing in this Epstein excrement. You know, for 'justice'. Because the Clintons are going to break down and confess to felonious activity. This nonsense sat on a shelf for a decade but now it's time for truth and justice. It's a dog and pony show and a complete waste of time.

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You know, for 'justice'. Because the Clintons are going to break down and confess to felonious activity. This nonsense sat on a shelf for a decade but now it's time for truth and justice. It's a dog and pony show and a complete waste of time.

Yes, I agree.
The Clintons are both very talented liars.
There's a reason they put this off since October. They first had to know what was in those files and what was provable. They do their homework and know when they will be caught in a lie and then simply evade the question or say "I do not recall."
They are never going to tell the truth so it's a waste of time.

There are couple of books that give some historical background to the Epstein and Maxwell situations over time, as well as other characters. I found both of these very interesting. Volume 1 dates back to the prohibition era, volume 2 (written in 2022) focuses more on the modern Epstein relationships.

https://www.amazon.com/One-Nat...id=1772207455&sr=8-2

Oh, actual evidence. Imagine that.

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Originally posted by bdylan:
The country is excited about wallowing in this Epstein excrement. ... It's a dog and pony show and a complete waste of time.

Yep.

No matter what is "released" if anything is redacted or "missing", "They're hiding something!"

If every piece of evidence were released all at once with nothing "missing" or redacted, "Oh, it's all BS and lies, they're hiding something!"

The Right wants the Left to burn in hell for all their sins.

The Left wants the Right to burn in hell for all their sins.

It is a waste of time trying to satisfy anyone. Very, very few, give a shit about "victims".

Just find a creditable, honest and reliable group of people who are trustworthy, swear them in and let them have the powers to sort through everything and publish their findings, then present to a group of prosecuting attorneys types to recommend charges, and move forward from there.

But leave the salacious pig trough in the Pig style that is Hollywood and Supermarket Rags.

It does no good for this nation with the real problems that need to be dealt with.

That is all I have to say about the matter, and if it the topic never again saw the pages of this forum, I would be grateful.

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Fake AI BS

^^

Not so sure, but who knows.

Google Al Fact Check: “This image shows Jeffrey Epstein, and Bill Clinton sharing a laugh with Hillary Clinton, former U.S. Secretary of State and First Lady.

The photo was taken at a reception in New York City around September 2002. The occasion followed a week-long trip to Africa that Bill Clinton took on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane to promote his foundation’s work on HIV AIDS awareness and economic development.

The photo is part of a larger collection of images from Epstein’s estate released by House Democrats in December 2025. Following the release of these documents, Bill and Hillary Clinton agreed to testify before the House Oversight Committee in February 2026 as part of an ongoing investigation.” - Google confirmed.