It isn't really a clusterfuck when the activity is inherently that dangerous. Some years are worse than others, but there is always a significant chance of dying.
Whether it makes any sense to participate is a different question. But everyone up there is up there of their own volition.
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May 25, 2017, 05:17 PM
rduckwor
I've known three physicians who were everest-a-holics. One died, two paid heavy prices for their "avocation".
It simply makes no sense to risk your life in that manner.
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May 25, 2017, 05:36 PM
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May 25, 2017, 05:42 PM
RobLew
Yeah...I'll do Ride the Rockies where you ride up to a 100 miles a day up over mountains in Colorado for 7 days.
But anything where you are climbing through the "Death Zone" - I'm out...so, so out.
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May 25, 2017, 06:07 PM
comet24
Mount Everest will always be dangerous. Because it's the biggest mountain it gets headlines more so then others major peaks. It also get more deaths because you have so many people who really shouldn't be there trying to climb it just to say they can.
Have $80,000 to throw around, do some training, pay a guide service and you can make a attempt at the summit.
There are many other much more challenging climbs for true mountaineers.
Here's a trailer for a short film of three world class climbers.
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May 25, 2017, 06:16 PM
Doc H.
At least they died doing what they loved - drawing to an inside straight with their lives in the pot....
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May 25, 2017, 07:26 PM
Virginia sheepdog
Here's a trailer for a short film of three world class climbers.
I watched thay Meru documemtary one night. It was more interesting than anything I've seen aboit Everest. Those guys are nuts. Good for them.
May 25, 2017, 08:19 PM
Graniteguy
Let's see how the crowd ascends this year with the Hillary Step gone.
May 25, 2017, 08:27 PM
comet24
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy: Let's see how the crowd ascends this year with the Hillary Step gone.
I was trying to find picture the other day of what it looks like now. I think the danger(deaths) and there is a backup because it's takes longer to navigate. Although who knows what it's really like up there now.
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May 25, 2017, 09:04 PM
Icabod
quote:
Originally posted by comet24:
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy: Let's see how the crowd ascends this year with the Hillary Step gone.
I was trying to find picture the other day of what it looks like now. I think the danger(deaths) and there is a backup because it's takes longer to navigate. Although who knows what it's really like up there now.
Reportedly, the step is intact. There's a large amount of snow on it and climbers on another route thought it was gone. There's been a ladder placed there for years. I watched a video where there was a solid line of climbers and one was stuck, unable to move. Think others started climbing over him.
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May 25, 2017, 09:21 PM
2012BOSS302
I understand the attraction and desire, and am ok with people that want to do this. It's dangerous, with little room for error. If you make it, high five. If you die it was your choice.
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May 25, 2017, 09:28 PM
newmexican
I'd rather climb Mt. McKinley any day.
May 25, 2017, 09:32 PM
Deqlyn
Everest is for wussies K2 is a real mans mountain.
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May 25, 2017, 09:33 PM
BBMW
They need to put in an aerial tram and mountain top restaurant.
May 25, 2017, 10:23 PM
comet24
quote:
Originally posted by Deqlyn: Everest is for wussies K2 is a real mans mountain.
This. K2 requires real mountaineering and climbing experience. Your not paying your way to the summit. K2 would destroy most of the people that summit Everest.
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May 25, 2017, 10:26 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by Deqlyn: Everest is for wussies K2 is a real mans mountain.
That is my understanding as well.
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