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Elizabeth NJ man tries to rob off duty ANG Security Forces airman who shoots back
July 09, 2018, 02:45 PM
SigmundElizabeth NJ man tries to rob off duty ANG Security Forces airman who shoots back
Hilarity ensues. Robber drops gun and flees.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/w...re-elizabeth-robberySuspect, Off-Duty Officer Exchange Gunfire In Elizabeth Robbery
The suspect is described as a man, around 30, 5' 10" tall, with shoulder-length dreadlocks, wearing a black-and-white shirt and jean shorts.By Alexis Tarrazi, Patch Staff | Jul 9, 2018 3:10 pm ET
ELIZABETH, NJ — Authorities are searching for a man wanted for robbing an off-duty law enforcement representative at gunpoint early Sunday in Elizabeth causing an exchange of gunfire between the two, Union County First Assistant Prosecutor Albert Cernadas Jr. announced.
Just after 1 a.m., the victim, a member of the New York Air National Guard Security Forces, reported he was sitting in a parked car when a man opened the driver's side door and robbed him at gunpoint, stealing his wallet and military knapsack containing other personal effects.
The victim then got his gun from his car and confronted the suspect, leading to an exchange of gunshots, according to the investigation by the Union County Prosecutor's Office's Shooting Response Team.
The suspect then ran away, dropping his gun as he ran. No one was reported injured.
The suspect is described as a man, about 30 years old, standing at about 5' 10" tall, with shoulder-length dreadlocks, wearing a black-and-white shirt and jean shorts, according to the report.
Anyone with information about the suspect's identity or whereabouts, or anyone with information about this incident, is being urged to contact Prosecutor's Office Detective Nora Berrio at 908-370-3016 or Dennis Donovan at 908-527-4558.
The Union County Crime Stoppers are also offering a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to an arrest and indictment in this case. Tips can be given anonymously by phone at 908-654-TIPS (8477) or online at
www.uctip.org.
July 09, 2018, 02:59 PM
nhtagmemberI am disappointed that the thug was able to run away - doesn't say much for the marksmanship training of the AP

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July 09, 2018, 03:01 PM
2BobTannerSomebody needs more “range time”.

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July 09, 2018, 03:02 PM
2BobTannerquote:
Originally posted by OMCHamlin:
Could they be any less specific about one others sect of the alleged perpetrator?
What is often NOT said, says everything.
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July 09, 2018, 03:07 PM
StramboAs an aside...this is why you should always have your doors locked and windows up when sitting in the car.
Call me "paranoid" but you likely won't be calling me "car-jacked."

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https://preparefit.ck.page July 09, 2018, 03:12 PM
HRKGenerally speaking, nothing good happens after midnight...
July 09, 2018, 03:21 PM
PASigHow is this ANG guy armed in the People's Republik of New Jersey, off duty?
He's not considered an LEO so I'm confused as to how he was able to shoot back here.
July 09, 2018, 03:34 PM
arfmelquote:
Originally posted by OMCHamlin:
Could they be any less specific about one others sect of the alleged perpetrator?
“The suspect is described as a man, around 30, 5' 10" tall, with shoulder-length dreadlocks, wearing a black-and-white shirt and jean shorts.”
Sounds like another of those Amish ruffians.
Not only did he try to rob the victim, from the story it sounds like he succeeded.
July 09, 2018, 03:50 PM
DMFquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
How is this ANG guy armed in the People's Republik of New Jersey, off duty?
He's not considered an LEO so I'm confused as to how he was able to shoot back here.
LEOSA as amended.
http://le.nra.org/leosa/leosa-...es-the-military.aspxA certain amount of that frustration was mitigated on January 2nd of this year. Hidden within the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act an amendment to LEOSA was enacted allowing military and DoD police and law enforcement officers with UCMJ apprehension authority to qualify for the statute.
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July 09, 2018, 03:53 PM
Ryanp225So is he Asian or Pennsylvania Dutch?
July 09, 2018, 05:05 PM
LS1 GTOquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I am disappointed that the thug was able to run away - doesn't say much for the marksmanship training of the AP
He ran out of boolits.

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July 09, 2018, 05:30 PM
GraniteguyAnother danish guy with dreadlocks.....
July 09, 2018, 06:06 PM
pbslingerThe ruffian needs to work on his victim selection. At least he didn't pick a Gurkha.
July 09, 2018, 06:33 PM
Johnny 3eaglesStill trying to figure, sitting in his car at 1am.
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July 09, 2018, 07:06 PM
Stramboquote:
Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
Still trying to figure, sitting in his car at 1am.
Shift work, maybe he just got off work and was in the parking lot?
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229DAKPull some prints from the pistol and see what comes back. Maybe they get lucky.
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July 09, 2018, 08:52 PM
DMFquote:
Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
Still trying to figure, sitting in his car at 1am.
Waiting for a girl who had agreed to come over for, "Netflix & Chill." Formerly known as a " booty call?"
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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
July 09, 2018, 09:00 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by 229DAK:
Pull some prints from the pistol and see what comes back. Maybe they get lucky.
My thought, as well. Chances are that those prints will already be on file somewhere.
Dreadlocks, huh? Doesn't leave a lot of doubt as to the perp's ethnicity (but not ancestry).
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Texan by choice, not accident of birth July 10, 2018, 10:59 AM
PASigThere is much more to this story than we are being told.
I still don't buy that an ANG Security Forces guy can carry a weapon in NJ with LEOSA. There are actual real cops who are afraid to carry there because they are so nuts about busting people with guns.
July 10, 2018, 01:25 PM
DMFquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
There is much more to this story than we are being told.
I still don't buy that an ANG Security Forces guy can carry a weapon in NJ with LEOSA. There are actual real cops who are afraid to carry there because they are so nuts about busting people with guns.
Regardless of whether someone feels comfortable depending on the statute to protect them, does not change the fact, that based on the 2013 amendment to the LEOSA, he is "considered an LEO." Just because you didn't know that, or don't like it, it's still the way it is.
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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman