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Having visited Italy many times, I'm always impressed how long many ancient Roman works have survived, concrete being the 'glue' to much of it. The self-healing aspects I did not know about, pretty crazy. Riddle solved: Why was Roman concrete so durable?
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I saw this the other day on Fox, I believe. Interesting story, will wait to see what modern applications they'll have for our newly (re)discovered better concrete. ________________________________________________ "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving." -Dr. Adrian Rogers | |||
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Actually the one Roman archway I examined a few years back and was right at 2,000 years old and still standing like the day it was built... there was no cement... it was just rocks... with a key stone right at the top middle. But as for the article... it has been known a lot longer than recently that high lime mortar is self healing... I was taught that in chimney sweep school about 35 years ago. My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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Banned for showing his ass |
Interesting ... been historically curious about this, and know I know. Just might try a small experiment. Heck, am retired and why not. | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
Just make sure her feet are firmly planted on the bottom of the washtub before you pour in the hot mix. | |||
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I also have been fascinated with the ancient building methods. Perhaps the ancients knew more than what evolutionists think. They seem to think that knowledge is constantly increasing. Perhaps the Renaissance period was only a small event compared to what happened long ago. Regardless of speculation, I'd still think that if penndot used this knowledge to make better roads and bridges, they'd still find a way to continuously close down portions of roads. --Tom The right of self preservation, in turn, was understood as the right to defend oneself against attacks by lawless individuals, or, if absolutely necessary, to resist and throw off a tyrannical government. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Interesting story to follow. Some years ago (2017?) the theory being floated around in the press was that the Romans used volcanic ash (apparently from a specific source in Italy, but I can't find the citation) along with seawater and lime to form those crystals described in the original post's linked article. http://www.weforum.org/agenda/...rete-volcano-science I don't think I ever quite figured out how special volcanic ash was supposed to make a difference. | |||
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I used to haul loads of coal fly ash from Milliken Station back in Lansing, NY to be blended into concrete. At its youth Milliken Station could take in over 10,000 train car loads of coal in a year. The fly ash is used around the globe in concrete and dry wall. Much of it is land filled or stored in lined ponds as it seeps off some awsome polutants. | |||
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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Very interesting article, that I'll be passing on to a young man that recently graduated with an architectural degree. Thanks for posting the article Corsair. | |||
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Very interesting article. | |||
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I wouldn't lay it so much at the feet of evolutionists but, the general population who are largely ignorant to history and HOW things evolved. When people travel, they gain perspective; traveling throughout Europe (and if you're paying attention), you see why after the fall of Rome, that period from the Fall to the Renaissance, was known as the Dark Ages or, Middle Ages. Lots of technology was 'lost', dispersed and not concentrated or, forgotten due to the collapse of the Roman civilization. Pius adherence to religion during these times, (along with petty squabbles) was paramount to daily life and many religious-based decisions eschewed some of the advances and developments in engineering and material usage. Methods and techniques had be 're-discovered' There's been other points in human history where civilization collapse led to the loss of technology and methods, the Fall of Rome being the most recent. For all our own advances in modern society, there's always things to learn from the past; may not be revolutionary but, helps explain Why's and How's. | |||
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Well, I was taught in grade school that the Romans used puzzalan cement that was based on volcanic ash, but never any expansion of the idea. That was an interesting article. Several types of concrete of different densities were used in building the Pantheon. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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I found this interesting. Thank you for posting! cheers Don't. drink & drive, don't even putt. | |||
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It is amazing that they actually were able to unlock that formula and process. In today's world of planned obsolescence, that would never fly. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
I had an electrician from my work who does side jobs install a subpanel this past summer and as he’s drilling my basement wall to mount it he says “whoa, you have REAL cinder block here!” I asked him what he meant and he pointed to the dark gray dust coming out of the bore holes and told me that the original cinder block had actual coal cinders in them. | |||
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Banned for showing his ass |
After giving your comment a little thought, maybe I should be making wine instead. | |||
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half-genius, half-wit |
A few years back I looked at the Pantheon in Rome with a sense of ever-growing awe, as I took in the sheer beauty and elegance of the structure, getting on for two thousand years old. Then when I got back to UK, my local streets were disfigured with pot-holes in the recently-repaired potholes. | |||
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there was a different time in this world.... a number of years ago I was in Prague looking at the Cathedral up on the hill. Seems it took over 600 years to build... my thought was who on the 'church building committee " approved that? Can you imagine someone actually proposing to build something today and then estimating that it would take 6 centuries to build? My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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half-genius, half-wit |
They didn't know, or care, that it took six centuries to build. They started to build, and carried on until it was finished. Our local church dates from the late 900's. The 'new' spire was built in the 1460's. If I drive about thirty miles I can visit one of the most wonderful ecclesiastical building on earth, Ely Cathedral - the original of the Ken Follett historical novel 'The pillars of the Earth'. That took over 700 years to build, but it wasn't built to any kind of work schedule. Nearer to me is Peterborough Cathedral, home of the largest painted ceiling of any medieval church on earth. It was built on foundations that predate the Norman invasion by over 250 years... | |||
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This is such a dramatically different perspective than we have in the states. The oldest church on the mainland is from the 1600s and anything build before 1800 is considered very old. The oldest building here in Florida is the fort at St. Augustine which was begun in 1695, and that's ancient by US standards. | |||
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