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Do you attend church regularly?
September 06, 2017, 07:38 AM
jehzsaDo you attend church regularly?
AFAIK, no one has ever accused The Lord of being a bad judge of character.
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September 06, 2017, 11:21 AM
joatmonvNo but the rest of my family does. They go every Sunday and my one brother is on the board. The rest of my family is active and they go to church functions and help out. I stay away because it's just not me.
I do go to the weddings, funerals and baptisms for family members but that's it.
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September 06, 2017, 11:29 AM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by sidss1:
Am late to this discussion, but, I attend Church faithfully, every Sunday, at our local Mormon Church. Right now, I dont have a calling in the Church, am not a teacheror anything. Just attend Church and hope to maintain my sanity, given the serious health situation I find myself faced with.
Sometimes, I get pissed off by the attitudes of a lot of the Utah/Idaho/Arizona Mormons in our Congregation. Because I am Indian, a lot of them seem to consider me a second-class citizen, and the bitches just refuse to respond to my overtures of friendship. This is the only thing that gets me pissed of about Church.
Hang in there, good luck on your health issues. One day the others will see the error of their ways.
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njautoYes. Twice on Sunday when I'm not working.
September 06, 2017, 05:34 PM
jhe888I am curious as to why your question is limited to Christians?
Why are you not interested in the worship habits of other believers? Jews? Hindus? Whoever.
This is a genuine question. What is it you are trying to get at?
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 07, 2017, 07:51 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
I am curious as to why your question is limited to Christians?
I am curious about the worship habits of other believers, but to include them in this poll would complicate the results. In addition, from the posts I’ve read here over the past many years, it seems that most of our religionist members are Christians, or at least self-professed Christians, and therefore asking about their worship habits was likely to elicit the most responses.
Most important, though, is the fact that our nation itself has more Christians or self-professed Christians than any other religious group. It’s common to see posts here declaring that this is a “Christian nation.”
As I mentioned above, my train of thought on this issue was started by things like the advice to go to one’s church to meet people, especially women for long-lasting relationships. We have a number of Jewish members here, and (at one time at least) a Muslim member or two, but I’ve never seen similar advice about a synagogue, and certainly nothing like, “Ask your imam to find a wife for you.”
I don’t own any Glock pistols and the ones I’ve fired hurt my hands, but as a instructor and armorer it behooves me to know something about them, so I pay attention to discussions here about Glocks. Korth revolvers—not so much.
My reason for specifying “regular” church attendance and defining it as narrowly as I did was to focus on the distinction between people who are clearly dedicated to their religious observations and for whom formal worship is very important, and that mass that is much harder to define. As I indicated, it’s somewhat arbitrary, but it was the distinction I decided would best give me the information I was curious about.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. September 07, 2017, 10:18 AM
chellim1quote:
Most important, though, is the fact that our nation itself has more Christians or self-professed Christians than any other religious group. It’s common to see posts here declaring that this is a “Christian nation.”
Well.... I don't think it's quite accurate to say this is a “Christian nation.” Or that it ever was. It would be more accurate to say this is a nation of Christians, or founded by Christians, rather than a "Christian nation.”
The First Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion, or non-religion over religion.
The results of your poll show an almost even split between regular church attendance and those who do not. That sounds about right, in my experience with Catholics. We call them C&E Catholics, because they fill the churches on Christmas and Easter, so twice a year. How many real Catholics are there? About half of them.
We are trending towards more of a religious tradition, same as Europe, than religious practice.
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113 (44%) Yes.
141 (56%) No.
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-rduckwor September 07, 2017, 12:17 PM
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September 09, 2017, 08:05 PM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
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Originally posted by SgtGold:
Forgive me father for I am Jewish.
Me, too. But I don't need to ask anybody for forgiveness.
However, I DO go to church quite a lot, and living within 3/4hr drive in each direction of two of the most beautiful cathedrals in the UK, I am a great fan of church choral music. I went to school at one of the principal public schools here in England that was actually part of a great abbey, and got my love of ecclesiastical music from there and from the nearby Russian and Greek Orthodox cathedrals.
tac
I work up the street from St. Patrick's in NYC. It's one of north America's great cathedrals.
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September 09, 2017, 08:19 PM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
As I mentioned above, my train of thought on this issue was started by things like the advice to go to one’s church to meet people, especially women for long-lasting relationships. We have a number of Jewish members here, and (at one time at least) a Muslim member or two, but I’ve never seen similar advice about a synagogue, and certainly nothing like, “Ask your imam to find a wife for you.”
I'd invite you to the Friday night wine tasting and social mixer at my local reform schul, but it's only going to work if you want to meet a nice Jewish girl.

Jews are about 3% of the US population. It's a simple fact of math that you're much more likely to be invited to a church function than one at your local synagogue or mosque, if you even have one.
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September 09, 2017, 09:17 PM
FredwardNo. God is everywhere, not some stinky church.
September 09, 2017, 09:25 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by Fredward:
No. God is everywhere, not some stinky church.
Gun owners are everywhere, not some stinky forum like this one, yet you belong to SIGforum First Congregational.

September 09, 2017, 11:23 PM
flashguyYes. I sing in the Adult Choir and attend 2 services every Sunday morning. Even when I'm out of town I can often "attend" by logging in to my church's web site and watching the 0945 service on line. I'm out of town right now, but hope to attend a local service in Mound City, Missouri tomorrow.
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Texan by choice, not accident of birth September 10, 2017, 10:17 AM
sigarms229No.
Raised and confirmed in the Catholic church. I tell people I'm a recovering Catholic.
While I believe in a higher power, I don't believe said higher power is watching over every single thing we do everyday.
I've seen organized religious groups do some great things over the years, then I've seen a few that are very restrictive and almost controlling over their flocks lives.
Church/Organized religion just isn't for me....
Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
September 10, 2017, 11:52 AM
Appliance BradBeen watching this thread since it started and have read through all 6 pages.
No we don't attend regularly, in fact pretty much not at all anymore.
I grew up Presbyterian, worship was a formal, liturgical process that I hated. First marriage was in our Presbyterian church. As a young adult, I continued to attend mostly as a social obligation.
My wife grew up in the Christian Missionary Alliance and Southern Baptist churches. Her family attended every time the doors were open. Her father after years and years of serving in music ministry went to seminary in his late 50's and is now an ordained Southern Baptist pastor.
When we first got together, we looked for a church of our own. Visited a bunch of different faith expressions until we visited a small Evangelical Lutheran Church in America(ELCA)just a block from out then home. While the ELCA is considered the "liberal" Lutheran's we liked that they are Welcoming congregations were everyone is greeted openly and friendly.
We never visited another church after that, joined and became active members. We had a great pastor who had been there 10 years, the music was good at the "contemporary" service we attended (not praise and worship) and we liked the church community. We changed pastors (called the first woman to serve our congregation). This was her first call but she was ordained in her 30's and was raising 2 children as a single mother. Her sermons were good and while the manner of worship changed direction to a much more liturgical format, we were still happy there. More importantly, for the first time I came to know and understand what Grace was. And what it was to worhip with people who likewise understood it.
Kids grew up and went off to college. Called a very young pastor who preached in a monotone and had nothing in common to make her approachable to us. Our attendance dropped from infrequent to not at all.
No desire to look for another church. It's a combination of finding one that would welcome our wide array of friends along with one that wouldn't make us leave our firearms in our vehicle during worship (a thing we HATE about the ELCA) and that would be helping ot those really in need while not pushing the social justice agenda. Just too much work and we are not really sure a more libertarian leaning church even exists.
So a very long answer to my answer of No, we don't attend regularly.
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