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New York State now investigating allegations of tenant complaints against Kushner.

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July 17, 2018, 10:18 AM
spunk639
New York State now investigating allegations of tenant complaints against Kushner.
Seriously Coumo get past it Hilliary isn't President, you couldn't fix the election now you're investigating land lord tenant issues.
Is this the best way to spend taxpayer monies?


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July 17, 2018, 10:51 AM
PASig
They will never stop. This is all about keeping the Trump name in the news in a negative light.


July 17, 2018, 11:21 AM
220-9er
This is just another way the Democrats are trying to attack anything or anyone they see as aligned with Trump.
A childish political temper tantrum by the leftists.


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July 17, 2018, 11:48 AM
bigdeal
More of the "throw it at the wall and see if it will stick" agenda to trying to continually paint this president in a negative way. Something tells me that outside of the loony liberal left, this isn't going to provide much.


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July 17, 2018, 12:14 PM
BBMW
You're missing the local angle here. Kushner has a no hold barred approach with deal with tenants, and it's pissed a lot of people off. And it doesn't help him that Trump is pretty much hated here, so they'll take any opportunity to give Kushner crap.
July 17, 2018, 12:16 PM
Fenris
Hmmm...

Tenants don't like their landlord.

Shocking.




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July 17, 2018, 02:47 PM
BBMW
It's more than that. He buys rent regulated buildings, then tries to force the regulated tenants out, usually through various forms of harassment (unnecessary, and unnecessarily dirty, noisy construction, filing eviction cases for unwarranted reasons, etc.).

Now say what you want about rent regulation (I don't particularly care for the concept), but what he does is illegal (as civil law, I don't know if it has criminal implications.) So it gives the local politicritters, who suck up to the hordes of regulated renters in NYC, cause to go after him.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
Hmmm...

Tenants don't like their landlord.

Shocking.

July 17, 2018, 03:19 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
He buys rent regulated buildings


So what's the issue?

You are talking about the places where people are paying 100 bucks a month, right? Instead of $3,000? If he buys it, what's the problem?


July 17, 2018, 07:42 PM
spunk639
Rent regulated buildings make the renter have control over the landlord, an old NYC socialism start. Yes you can work hard and buy property to hopefully make a profit but the guy living well below market in your building, you can’t increase his rent or move him out unless facing the wrath of the nanny state.
July 18, 2018, 01:28 AM
Fenris
So Kushner is mean to people who are under-market price "free" loaders, who enjoy legal protections. Gee, that's terrible.




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

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July 18, 2018, 04:25 AM
mbinky
State sponsered legal terrorism, nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure he is not the only one doing things like this, but he dam sure is the only one who's father in law is President Trump.
July 18, 2018, 04:56 AM
CQB60
In New York City, rent control is based on the Maximum Base Rent system. A maximum allowable rent is established for each unit, and every two years, the landlord may increase the rent up to 7.5% (as of 2012) until the Maximum Base Rent is reached. However, the tenant may challenge these increases on grounds that the building has violations or the owner does not need to increase the rent that much to cover expenses.

Maximum Base Rent
In New York City, the maximum base rent (MBR) is calculated to ensure the rent from rent control units covers the cost of building maintenance and improvements. As set up in the New York City Local Law 30 of 1970, the formula reflects real estate taxes, water and sewer charges, operating and maintenance expenses, return on capital value and vacancy and collection loss allowance. The MBR is updated every two years to reflect changes in these expenses. The owner must apply for the maximum base rent system for the tenants, but before the MBR, rents were annually determined by the city/state, which developed its own set of regulations.


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July 18, 2018, 10:43 AM
BBMW
There are two systems, Rent Control and Rent Stabilization. Rent Control is the older one, and there are very few units under it. That's the one you're describing.

Rent Stabilization is the main program still in force. It covers close to a million units. But it works differently than what you're talking about. It has a regulated level of rent increases from the existing rent.

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Originally posted by CQB60:
In New York City, rent control is based on the Maximum Base Rent system. A maximum allowable rent is established for each unit, and every two years, the landlord may increase the rent up to 7.5% (as of 2012) until the Maximum Base Rent is reached. However, the tenant may challenge these increases on grounds that the building has violations or the owner does not need to increase the rent that much to cover expenses.

Maximum Base Rent
In New York City, the maximum base rent (MBR) is calculated to ensure the rent from rent control units covers the cost of building maintenance and improvements. As set up in the New York City Local Law 30 of 1970, the formula reflects real estate taxes, water and sewer charges, operating and maintenance expenses, return on capital value and vacancy and collection loss allowance. The MBR is updated every two years to reflect changes in these expenses. The owner must apply for the maximum base rent system for the tenants, but before the MBR, rents were annually determined by the city/state, which developed its own set of regulations.

July 18, 2018, 10:43 AM
BBMW
Terrible or not, it is illegal. That's going to be a major liability for someone who's a major advisor to the POTUS.

quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
So Kushner is mean to people who are under-market price "free" loaders, who enjoy legal protections. Gee, that's terrible.

July 18, 2018, 11:07 AM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Terrible or not, it is illegal. That's going to be a major liability for someone who's a major advisor to the POTUS.
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
So Kushner is mean to people who are under-market price "free" loaders, who enjoy legal protections. Gee, that's terrible.

Malicious prosecution is also illegal, but how often is that prosecuted?




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound.
July 18, 2018, 06:25 PM
CQB60
Correct, From the passage of the Rent Regulation Reform Act of 1997 to the Rent Act of 2011, rent stabilization was restricted to apartments where the legal, or stabilized, rent was under $2,000 per month. The 2011 law raised that to $2,500. The unit could be deregulated once the rent went above $2,000 under the 1997 law, $2,500 under the 2011 Act, and is either vacant or the household adjusted gross income was over $175,000 under the 1997 act or is $200,000 under the 2011 law, for two consecutive years. If the stabilized rent is under $2,500, the residents' income does not affect the rent stabilized status of the apartment. A tenant has to use the stabilized apartment as their primary residence in order for the apartment to remain under rent stabilization.
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
There are two systems, Rent Control and Rent Stabilization. Rent Control is the older one, and there are very few units under it. That's the one you're describing.

Rent Stabilization is the main program still in force. It covers close to a million units. But it works differently than what you're talking about. It has a regulated level of rent increases from the existing rent.

quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
In New York City, rent control is based on the Maximum Base Rent system. A maximum allowable rent is established for each unit, and every two years, the landlord may increase the rent up to 7.5% (as of 2012) until the Maximum Base Rent is reached. However, the tenant may challenge these increases on grounds that the building has violations or the owner does not need to increase the rent that much to cover expenses.

Maximum Base Rent
In New York City, the maximum base rent (MBR) is calculated to ensure the rent from rent control units covers the cost of building maintenance and improvements. As set up in the New York City Local Law 30 of 1970, the formula reflects real estate taxes, water and sewer charges, operating and maintenance expenses, return on capital value and vacancy and collection loss allowance. The MBR is updated every two years to reflect changes in these expenses. The owner must apply for the maximum base rent system for the tenants, but before the MBR, rents were annually determined by the city/state, which developed its own set of regulations.



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July 18, 2018, 08:58 PM
cas
It's called Andy's misdirection. "Hey look, over there!"

quote:

The 2018 New York public corruption score card:

Joe Percoco: Guilty
Sheldon Silver: Guilty
Alain Kaloyeros: Guilty
Louis Ciminelli: Guilty
Steven Aiello: Guilty
Joseph Girardi: Guilty
Dean Skelos: Guilty
Adam Skelos: Guilty


And of course Andy's attorney general having to step down due to accusations of physically abusing woman.


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