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Happily Retired |
That boat went out when there was a standing Severe Thunderstorm Warning issued a full thirty minutes before they left. Gonna be a lot of fallout over this. .....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
I was betting that was the case. Sometimes you don't get a do over. Tragic and preventable. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Knowing is Half the Battle |
I found the picture of the last time I rode one, August 1, 1986. Looks milsurp, completely different than what they are running now, but I count at least 25 people on board. Much smaller and unsubstantial roof, no plastic sides. "Captain Lee" signed the picture and my captain's license. All 6 wheels are completely visible, most of the ones I see now have the last 4 being covered by a skirt. Looks like some original ones were like that and some weren't. The life vests were on the underside of the roof, just like now. | |||
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| Good enough is neither good, nor enough |
The video was horrible to watch. There are 3 kinds of people, those that understand numbers and those that don't. | |||
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| Stop Talking, Start Doing |
Absolutely tragic. _______________ Mind. Over. Matter. | |||
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| Edge seeking Sharp blade! |
Possibly the lesson is don't get lulled to complacency by routine. Consider worst case scenario in everything you do. | |||
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Raptorman |
That boat looked as if it had absolutely no means of escape. I see criminal charges to the company owners in the near future. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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| Member |
11 from one family and 9 of them died. Horrific. | |||
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The back "door" may have been their only way out. We've done DC Ducks a couple times, most of the ride is on city streets with a little time on the Potomac. Ours had open sides, we could have gotten out if necessary. https://www.dcducks.com/ | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Deathtrap. Roof and windows SEVERELY hindered escape from inside. And they probably had any windows firmly in place due to the weather (passengers wouldn't want to get wet from the spray). Once that thing took a dive, only a highly trained or extremely lucky person would be able to get out. I've always wanted a DUKW ride, but I would NEVER set foot in one like that (it would have to have at LEAST open sides; preferably without a roof as well. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Specifically regarding life vests, either way it's a no-win situation if that craft goes down on a storm-tossed lake. Wearing life vests inside an enclosed passenger area will result in passengers being trapped if the craft sinks. Without life vests, some passengers may be more easily able to escape if the craft sinks, but unless they're very strong swimmers, many folks without life vests will be overcome by the rough waters on the stormy lake before they could be rescued. Poor design. Poor decisions. Poor emergency procedures. | |||
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safe & sound |
This will likely end up looking like most serious disasters. It won't be one single thing that caused it, but a series of choices combined with other failures that when all combined caused the event. Canopy and windows have been blamed in past tragedies, so we know that will be a contributing factor. It appears much lower in the water than it should have been towards the end. It may have been overweight, but it was also taking on water. Who knows at this point if it was leaking elsewhere, had an open engine hatch, or was taking it on over the sides. In any event it wasn't able to pump the water out. They either had pumps that were not working, or that couldn't keep up with what was coming in. You had somebody operating the vessel that likely didn't have experience doing so in rough water. They also likely waited too long to realize the vessel was doomed. Then you have the weather warning itself. Living here in Missouri it's a crap shoot. We get warnings pretty regularly that don't produce anything to be concerned about. Who makes that decision? The tour office or the individual operating the machine? There were other boats out on the water at the time, so the DUKW operators were not the only ones out there in it. When it is all said and done I would still ride one with my family. | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
Sounds like this was the case. From an interview with one of the survivors, at https://www.nwahomepage.com/ne...xperience/1314510838 :
Captain says "Don't worry... Stay seated". So everyone does. Until it's too late. | |||
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http://www.visitquadcities.com...annel-cat-water-taxi we have these on the mighty mississippi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=VnwjjfLpaE4This message has been edited. Last edited by: bendable, Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
So the links are funky at best. Is there an actual, watchable video of the sinking? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| safe & sound |
I haven't seen one yet. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody on the boat that sank wasn't recording on their phone at the time. Perhaps the divers will locate some better evidence. The only video I have seen was taken by a person on another boat showing the DUKWs struggling in the rough chop. As that video ends you can see that the nose of the DUKW has water coming over the top. There were several people on the boat that rushed onto deck to help. I'm wondering if the person doing the recording was one of them and stopped recording to assist. There were also several employees at a nearby marina, many of them teenagers, that immediately boarded their fleet of rental boats and went to assist as the call came in. https://www.news-leader.com/st...rock-lake/805011002/
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Older people and families with kids. RIP. Here is a list of the names of the deceased released by the sheriff's office on Friday: William Asher, 69, St. Louis, Mo. Rosemarie Hamann, 68, St. Louis Mo. Janice Bright, 63, Higginsville, Mo. William Bright, 65, Higginsville, Mo. Angela Coleman, 45, Indianapolis, Ind. Arya Coleman, 1, Indianapolis, Ind. Belinda Coleman, 69, Indianapolis, Ind. Ervin Coleman, 76, Indianapolis, Ind. Evan Coleman, 7, Indianapolis, Ind. Glenn Coleman, 40, Indianapolis, Ind. Horace Coleman, 70, Indianapolis, Ind. Maxwell Coleman, 2, Indianapolis, Ind. Reece Coleman, 9, Indianapolis, Ind. Leslie Dennison, 64, Illinois. Bob Williams, 73, Branson. Lance Smith, 15, Osceola, Ark. Steve Smith, 53, Osceola, Ark. https://www.news-leader.com/st...t-tragedy/808858002/ | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
That is as bad as it gets. I can only imagine that with all the children aboard any of the adults would not leave them, even if not their own and at their own peril. God Bless them all.  "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Hound Dog, the Table Rock Lake ducks in this horrific incident are much different that the Ride the Ducks Seattle that I was on in 2016. The inside of the Seattle ducks had life preservers above your head (i.e. no crew had to pass out in event of emergency) and the sides were open with roll down windows for inclement weather (i.e. not the fixed windows like Table Rock Lake):   Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
I have ridden the DUKWs at Wisconsin Dells and at Lake Taneycomo. I would not want to do so with bad weather approaching. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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