CZ make some great guns...Dan Wesson included. But this would also possibly give them some U.S. production should Biden mess with gun imports.

I do not have a CZ product or a Colt product, so I have only second hand info. Just on Sig Forum alone, I hear a lot of praise and very happy CZ owners, and mostly complaints about Colt. It seems that CZ will likely make better Colts than Colt did.
Rod

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Originally posted by sig sailor:
I do not have a CZ product or a Colt product, so I have only second hand info. Just on Sig Forum alone, I hear a lot of praise and very happy CZ owners, and mostly complaints about Colt. It seems that CZ will likely make better Colts than Colt did.
Rod

CZ makes great guns, accurate, great balance, Glock reliability etc. However, one thing they are not, is finished off nearly as nicely as a Colt. Most have poly paint finishes (which lasts and wears really well, but not as glamorous as blueing) and inside of the gun are a lot of tooling marks and so forth.....I own 2 CZ 75's that I love, one totally worked over by CZ Custom.

I have a 3 year old Colt Competition 9mm....bought sight unseen when the S/S guns first came out.....it's a beautifully finished gun and extremely tight and just runs and runs.....and was $865...... I think the modern Colt 1911's are very nicely put together......their revolvers on the other hand, well that's an entirely different story altogether.

CZ has a long history of firearm production, with some successful designs that continue to be very popular today, especially in competition circles.

The Dan Wesson line was long the unsung bargain value in the semi-custom world of 1911's. I own various DW 1911's, and they're well fit, function perfectly, and the finish is excellent. They're not line assemblies of parts. They're fitted.

I have colts. Colt was once a company that engaged in craftsmanship, and actually used gunsmiths to fit parts together to make pistols that were in demand for reasons other than the chic horsey logo. Now, recent years, they slid into the toilet. Their equipment is nothing to write home about, and certainly their management and finances aren't, either.

Now, a successful company is willing to invest in the Colt brand and to try to breathe some life into it. My money says that CZ can do it. Colt is one of the oldest, best known, and at one time, most respected brands producing firearms. Supplier to private individuals, collectors, police, and the military, Colt has a long, storied history, spanning a lot of years. God made men and Sam Colt made them equal, and all that. Shame to lose it. Good that someone who is still selling firearms, is willing to take on the brand.

Ironic, that it's a former cold war era company, but successful, none the less.

Look at what CZ offers in their competition pistols; handguns at all levels of features and price, from production to open pistols. A lot of options, a lot of features, and their Orange and Czechmate pistols are tack drivers. Something for everyone. Even a DW/CZ Shadow hybrid that's caused a lot of excitement.

I don't see Colt becoming the bargain basement wing of CZ. That was never Colt's sales model. If anything, Colt firearms have long brought a higher price, and no doubt, CZ would like to capitalize in that; bring back the brand, make it successful. Why buy it, if otherwise? Basic business. Make money. Colt will do that if people have confidence and CZ can do with it what they have in DW and in their own firearms.

I have a son in law who is the recent proud possessor of a Colt Commander. It's still a recognized brand, and for many, still a desirable one. With CZ's support, I hope it stays a viable US brand for a long time to come, and I hope they're successful at it.

The CZ Shadow II is on my short list once this surge subsides.

American companies shouldn't be owned by foreign entities. Period

Sadly it is no longer an American owned company. It is an American icon. They sold out like Budweiser.

Well, at least in a sense the 'placeholder' strategy could make sense. The CZ president did seem to be pretty impressed with the prospect of government sales and Colt's distribution network. They'd have to keep Colt going somehow to keep those lines of contact open even if they planned on replacing existing management (and engineering) and developing new firearms in the future.

I'm kinda curious, though - do the Canadians even like the CZ P10, or is CZ counting on the Canadians' releasing a technical requirements package and then having the Czech engineers knock it out of the park? Both SIG and Glock have manufacturing operations set up in the U.S. already - it can't be impossible to set up a production facility for the P320 or G17/19 in Canada if either one of them get a new military pistol contract.

Kind of off topic, but....

There are a number of inflation calculators on the internet. Download one, and plug in what you paid for that handgun in 1970. Todays prices are just about the same, adjusted for inflation, and in some cases quite a bit less.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
American companies shouldn't be owned by foreign entities. Period

I get that but the alternative is colt goes belly up.